What is "government fees" for buying a new car ?

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Old 03-07-18, 03:18 PM
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What is "government fees" for buying a new car ?

I asked for a quote from a local dealer and they provided me with this...

This is the first time I see "government fees"


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Old 03-07-18, 04:11 PM
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Probably Sales Tax; or Highway Use Tax . . . . or if you're lucky; BOTH ?
 
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Ask your local dealer, then let us know
 
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Old 03-07-18, 07:32 PM
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Here's the other fee's https://money.usnews.com/money/blogs...vices-to-avoid Some are definitely scams and you can get them reduced if you negotiate...as the story says

And since you are in AZ, I can answer your actual question pretty simply ...it's the initial tags, title, and registration fees. Have you ever registered a newer car in AZ? If so, you know that registration fee's start out high and then drop as the car's value drops. I think ADOT has an explanation on their page. Yep...see Variable Fees 3rd line down https://servicearizona.com/content/S...ees?otherclick
 
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If that includes title, plates, and registration, then I wouldn't make too big a deal. No problem with trying to negotiate though If they're a larger dealer, they may tell you to pound sand, but it's worth a try. Also, may be too late, but typically the end of the month is better for buying and negotiating.
 
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Old 03-08-18, 08:27 AM
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Should never buy a "new" car in the first place,.

Millions of 2-3 year old cars coming off lease that are $10-15K below what a new car goes for and still has full warranty why throw your money away!

It's used the minute you buy it anyway!
 
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Should never buy a "new" car in the first place,.
I completely agree. Didn't want to burst the guy's bubble since he just bought a new car. I always buy used (about 5 years) so I can review all the complaints, TSBs, etc, and get it at a much lower price. Just gotta weed through all the neglected cars and find the gem.
 
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Old 03-13-18, 04:05 PM
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You were right. It is title and registration.

Is it just me or salesmen think every customer should just accept the price without any question asked or something? This the response i got when asking about "government fees'

I would like to move away from used cars for now... Owner of a 22 yr old accord, 18 year old corolla, 18 year old accura and 9 year old camry.

You have to look out of those ride share cars when buying used cars now a day
https://www.consumerreports.org/buyi...r-or-lyft-car/


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Old 03-19-18, 07:32 AM
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Well I got $6800 off my new car so the out the door price just got a lot closer to a "used" car.

I don't like buying used simply because people beat on their cars and who knows how they maintain them.

I keep them for 15 years and pick the right cars with a good track record, so its a good value.
 
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Old 03-19-18, 07:41 AM
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Is it just me or salesmen think every customer should just accept the price without any question asked or something? This the response i got when asking about "government fees'
Not just you. They are sharks with the sole purpose of getting the most commission possible. They couldn't care less which car you end up in.

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Sounds like a real jerk to me.
 
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Old 03-21-18, 12:58 PM
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Well, "used" is not nerecessilly old and beat up. 2 yo vehicle, still under warranty and smelling NEW is legally used but really - not much so. Yet, it's already many thousands less than SAME vehicle new. Unless you hit them "complete redesign" years, so 2 yo has much less of this or that in it. Eg, Honda and Toyota do new model every five years, so within that pool, you get same cars.
 
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Old 04-12-18, 08:02 AM
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Well, "used" is not nerecessilly old and beat up. 2 yo vehicle, still under warranty and smelling NEW is legally used but really - not much so. Yet, it's already many thousands less than SAME vehicle new. Unless you hit them "complete redesign" years, so 2 yo has much less of this or that in it. Eg, Honda and Toyota do new model every five years, so within that pool, you get same cars.
You will see a lot of 2-3 year old with 50-70K miles on it now a day.. It's most likely an Uber or Lyft car. People who don't know about cars would like to avoid having to repair problems that were passed on by the previous owners.

I prefer to buy new cars now aday. You can get a brand new car 6-8K$ off INVOICE price (not MSRP) if you know the right time to buy. There are dealers with cars that they can't sell. It's because of the specific model or color, etc.. I like buying last year model after the new ones came out. I would grab up any 2017 if there are any available..

Wear and Tear is something you can not avoid. I had to replace the fuel filter (it's a pain for my 22 yr old Accord- it's under the brake master ), radiator, starter, engine mount, etc.. I'm done with keep fixing up cars. I'll just buy last year model New cars keep it for 6-8 years and then pass the repair bills to someone else and get a new one.

Our 2009 Camry XLE V6 is showing various problems

- climate control display is going out
- cv boots
- hood lifts
- leather cracking
-AC
- leaking power steering
etc...

I can fix these things.. but imagine someone who knows nothing about cars taking it to the shop ? for some people the price of a new car is worth the time and money spent on fixing a used car.
 

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