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Old 03-21-02, 03:24 PM
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I have a 88 ford escort when it down shifts from 3rd to second it down shifts very hard other than that it is fine could it be a linkage or is it something inside i have changed the filter and oil but it didn't do any good.
 
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Old 03-21-02, 06:08 PM
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sounds to me like you have the 3 speed automatic front wheel drive atx transaxle. check the tv rod linkage, usually the plastic bushings will deterate and fall out, that will effect your tv pressure and change shift quality, also check and make sure the rod returns (spring loaded). sometimes the rod falls out all together, if you are real adventures if all the above is ok, you can try loosening the bolt that holds the rod in position and slightly change the position, but be warned you could let the smoke out of the transmission by changing that adjustment, low psi at heavy acceleration =barabucued transmission quickly.
i'm willing to bet the bushings are shot or rod fell off or not returning.
another common problem with atx, doesn't shift usually when hot or not at all, cause drive governor gear tabs broke, drive gear spins freely, or apple cored, or driven gov gear apple cored. of course that tv rod stuck will cause a no shift also.
if by chance you have the 4 speed f4ael (1 pan ecat) do not touch the tv cable adjustment, unless you have a psi guage and the manual to properly set pressure, that is one sensitive adjustment and a costly tranny to rebuild.
actually if you want to try and adjust the rod on a atx you should use a manual and a psi guage, if bushing fell out just pop in a bushing and road test. good luck happy motoring.
 
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Old 03-22-02, 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by transman
sounds to me like you have the 3 speed automatic front wheel drive atx transaxle. check the tv rod linkage, usually the plastic bushings will deterate and fall out, that will effect your tv pressure and change shift quality, also check and make sure the rod returns (spring loaded). sometimes the rod falls out all together, if you are real adventures if all the above is ok, you can try loosening the bolt that holds the rod in position and slightly change the position, but be warned you could let the smoke out of the transmission by changing that adjustment, low psi at heavy acceleration =barabucued transmission quickly.
i'm willing to bet the bushings are shot or rod fell off or not returning.
another common problem with atx, doesn't shift usually when hot or not at all, cause drive governor gear tabs broke, drive gear spins freely, or apple cored, or driven gov gear apple cored. of course that tv rod stuck will cause a no shift also.
if by chance you have the 4 speed f4ael (1 pan ecat) do not touch the tv cable adjustment, unless you have a psi guage and the manual to properly set pressure, that is one sensitive adjustment and a costly tranny to rebuild.
actually if you want to try and adjust the rod on a atx you should use a manual and a psi guage, if bushing fell out just pop in a bushing and road test. good luck happy motoring.
 
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Old 03-22-02, 05:26 PM
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Ok I tryed what was said and got the new bushings man it shifted like a dream the first 3 or 4 times then it went back to the same thing I tightened up the spring holding the rod in place so the linkage returned all the way but different make a difference. I am thinking of changing the filter and oil again tomorrow to see what happens the guy at the trans place said if i didn't get that gasket in right it might not shift quit right
Anymore help please ????
Thank you for your response
 
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Old 03-22-02, 07:05 PM
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stupid question, but after you started getting rough shiift again did u double check and make sure the rod was ok still? was it still returning all the way?
i do not think you created the problem by changing the fluid and filter i believe you had the problem and changed your fluid and filter to try and correct problem originally, adj the rod slightly, decrease the travel very slightly if necessary. before you do that take a measurment or mark the rod where it is before you change the setting, if you do not want to do that take it to a tranny shop, probably pay a little under 100, do not let them sell you a overhaul, especially if the pan was clean when you droped it.

ohio, i used to live in lancaster for a spell, worked at the chevy dealer there, can't rember the name
 
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Old 03-23-02, 06:14 PM
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Well Transman
I tryed all what you said and then some put about 40 miles on this car and still no good.
But what you said I think was right just like yesterday the first time out it shifted fine but as soon as the tranny got warm it would down shift real hard again
I pulled the govener out and replaced it with one from another car but still the same
Do ya think a tranny place could fix it without taking it all apart and paying a million dollars
I do thank you for all your help
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Old 03-24-02, 03:24 AM
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what city do you live by or in, in ohio?
 
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Old 03-24-02, 05:19 AM
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I live just outside of oberlin OHIO about 50 miles northwest of cleveland
How much work is it to change the tranny ???
 
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