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Old 04-16-02, 03:53 PM
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Joe F when are you taking a1/a2/a3/a4/a5/a6/a7/a8and L1 ase tests I for one would like to know.I have and passed so Im curious when your are going to add to your ase in parts specialist?Which is not an automotive repair category,but a repair parts category.
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Old 04-16-02, 03:59 PM
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That's not nice!LOL
ASE is overrated anyway.The tests are so easy it's not funny.
I'd rather have my GM certifications.They are a little harder to earn.
Old 04-16-02, 05:28 PM
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Not sure of your comment and where you might be going with it. Already have the Parts Specialist. I have since about 1996 and just recertified.

As for the others, haven't decided what to do there. I may eventually move to a different part of the industry .

Bill: The tests are quite hard and can be pretty tricky. I have an MBA in Executive Management (not tooting my horn, just showing the scope of tests I've and I can tell you some of the questions on the ASE test are not only improperly written, they are quite tricky. I recently wrote a similar aptitude test for folks in my department being hired and a good number of them got a lot wrong . You CAN read into the question too much!

FYI: The last time I took the Parts Specialist test renewal last year, I asked the clerk for a "dispute" sheet. When she handed me one, I said, "No, I need three more..." The look on her face was priceless.

I then asked for my question book back and went through all the questions and wrote comments about the ones formed incorrectly.
They ask for your phone # to call you. I scored well on the test. Still never got a phone call.

That being said, the ASE certs do not replace good techs. They ENHANCE them making a good tech better .

It also brings a degree of professionalism to our field as well.

Bill: ASE offers a new Parts Specialist test with GM SPO. It looks pretty interesting. Considering I don't work for a GM dealer, I'd like to try my hand at it. There are many policies and procedures I do not know because I don't work for them. Lol
Old 04-16-02, 08:43 PM
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Before I got into the field I also went to college so I know about tests also.(Air Force recruiter told me they would pay for my college and like a dummy I dropped out and joined.And never returned to my Engineering degree.)
That being said.Before recieving GM and A.S.E tech certifications I was a loley GM parts man and I also have a GM Parts Specialists Certification.
It's a little more Technical than the A.S.E. tests are so they shouldn't be a problem.
I would also like to add that A.S.E tests are designed to test the basics,Which is why they are simple.If anyone cannot pass them they are in the wrong field.
Old 04-17-02, 05:47 AM
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Or can't take tests . Another skill you might choose to measure. Remember, the test are not only testing the "basics", but they test logic and thought patterns. Often you find that when you see the answer, you say, "Oh shoot, I didn't read the question". Lol.

I have whipped up tests for hiring folks in our company and a lot of guys failed that were "in the trade". Some that should have gotten a 100, didn't.

I subsequently made the test harder. Just remember we all make mistakes.....look back a post or two .

455's come as Pontiac, Oldsmobile and Buick engines. And you cannot swap big and small block Olds parts.

I've corrected GM a thousand times (yes, a on parts mistakes in their parts catalogs as well. I have all the reply cards for proof.

Just remember that attitude, willingness to learn and logic will make a better candidate than a guy that is trying to be a superstar overnight .
Old 04-19-02, 04:12 PM
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If you look at that post Joe.---You're the one that said in the second post that they were interchangable, not me.(455 & 350)

You may be right about the tests.I guess I'm just lucky.I've never had to study for a test ,But I was always in the top percentile of my class.(Extremely high retention.But that is now slipping away with my age.LOL)
Old 04-19-02, 04:14 PM
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"Some parts don't interchange". I believe I contended that through the beginning .

Cmon Bill. Everyone makes mistakes. You said that the 455 was only produced by Pontiac in the same post .

No harm, we all live and learn.
Old 04-19-02, 04:20 PM
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I never said I didn't make mistakes!!!
If I did,Then I would be a liar.LOL

And I didn't say only Pontiac made A 455, did I?
If so Then I give you permission to smack me in the head.LOL
Old 04-19-02, 04:24 PM
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Ya, you did. Go back and read the posts . I then replied with all the vin codes for the various 455, which stopped in cars in 1976. Chevy kept the 454 in trucks through the 90's.

Must be that retention thing. Lol. We all learn from our mistakes.

I'll just make you write all the Vin codes on the board a 1000 times. Lol.
Old 04-19-02, 07:03 PM
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getting back to the post on ase certification ,while a few of the test may be more difficult most of them is not, and although they may have the general public believing that you should take your vehicle to an ase certified shop it doesnt mean that you wont get ripped off by selling you additional work that your vehicle doesn't need. and alot of the test are so simple just because someone is ase ceretified doesn't mean that they are qualified to work on my car.
the only ase test that i have taken and found complex enough to be difficult is the automatic transmision or transaxle one wich would require some working knowledge, i would think to pass.
Old 04-21-02, 05:58 AM
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You have to remember something: Not all states license mechanics. If you pay the required fee and register, you can be a mechanic in most states, it's just a business license. It doesn't make you competent out of the hole.

The ASE does publish some guidelines for consumers to choose a shop. I think they probably have some good ideas. The ASE only seeks to bring professionalism to the trade. It's voluntary (and costly for some shops) to participate and that's the "tool" that consumers need to realize and that's what they try to drive home.

Experience and good logic make you a good technician. However, not all technicians are good business people. It all depends. A good shop is a combination of many things, among them, tools, talent, attitude, location, business acumen, and above all, good people.

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