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Covering a Light Fixture Hole and Texturing

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Old 11-19-20, 03:48 PM
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Covering a Light Fixture Hole and Texturing

I need to move this light fixture about 3 feet. What's the best way to cover the old junction box a retexture? Any ideas other than a drywall plug?
 
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Old 11-19-20, 04:26 PM
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Patching the hole is easy, getting the texture so it doesn't stand out is going to be the tough part.

I've had really good luck with patching holes and using the spray texture to blend but it was nothing like this.

I'm looking forward to others comments!
 
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Old 11-19-20, 04:36 PM
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Drywall and retexture is your only option unless you want to get a 6ft wide medallion to put above the new location.

The ceiling texture is a simple crows foot stomp texture and is about the easiest one there is to blend in.

The texture brush looks like this. The trick to getting the texture right is thinning the joint compound with the right amount of water. To runny and it will be too thin looking, too thick and it will look to sharp and heavy. It should be like pudding. Make a sample board before you try it on the ceiling. You generally want to sand the area down to flatten it somewhat, then skim on the texture mud with a wide trowel or roll it on heavily with a paint roller. Then put the brush on a pole and stomp it, turning the brush randomly with each stomp. Once it is painted you will be hard pressed to pick out the repair.
 
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Are you intending to leave the box and cover it up? This is a no no.
Or will you rake out the box and have a hole to patch? The prior suggestions are right on.
 
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Old 11-20-20, 08:23 PM
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How is putting a cover on the box then sealing it a "no no?" This would be no different than having an in ceiling junction box, right? The NEC certainly allows this.
 
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Old 11-20-20, 08:41 PM
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If there are wires in it you cannot conceal it. Just like you can't conceal a junction box. It would need a blank cover and would need to remain visible / accessible.
 
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It is, from the attic. The other gentleman should have paid more attention. Thanks for your help.
 
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Old 11-21-20, 12:30 AM
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OK, put up the cover. paint it and daub some texture on it. The paint will help the texture mud stick. Camoflage is the best you are going to do.
 
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Old 11-21-20, 05:52 AM
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How was anyone to know there was an attic above this fixture and not a 2nd story? You never mentioned that until just now.
 
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Thanks all. I bought the brush, mud and some patches.
 
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Old 11-21-20, 09:28 AM
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On big jobs, I also like to use a big plastic mixing tub, like this. The crows foot brush needs to be really wet and sloppy with mud. So I stomp it in the big plastic tub many times before using it. I imagine that for a newbie, if the brush was dry when you start, you would wonder what you are doing wrong.

 
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OKAY, the patch is handled. I am still trying to understand. One can cover up and make a box invisible in the ceiling as long as it can be found from the attic under the insulation? I did not know this.
 
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Correct, I should have mentioned that. Thanks.
 
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Old 11-21-20, 12:54 PM
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One can cover up and make a box invisible in the ceiling as long as it can be found from the attic under the insulation?
AFAIK, the box would need to be turned around to face upward before it is covered. Accessibility is in NEC 314.29. Whether they can be covered with insulation is open to interpretation.
 
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Thanks. The insulation is blown in cellulose, so it shouldn't be a problem.
 
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