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What are the signs that an American Pit Bull Terrier is a bad seed?

What are the signs that an American Pit Bull Terrier is a bad seed?

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Old 06-24-20, 08:59 AM
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What are the signs that an American Pit Bull Terrier is a bad seed?

My daughter wants an APBT so in helping her find one I've been talking to other owners and I'm learning that every now and then you can get one that is incorrigibly aggressive.
In other words having to be constantly restrained anytime it meets someone who's not living in the house. Or worse yet if the owner spends some time away and it's used to a temporary caretaker then it attacks the owner.
She'd want a dog that can protect the house but not attack any guest she has over, including me.
What are the signs, early on, that this dog will be nearly impossible to train to behave?
 
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You may get better results if you tell everyone what your acronym means.
 
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APBT=American Pit Bull Terrier.
 
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Title changed to better reflect the topic,
 
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It's a hard one to answer since dogs can be different once you bring them home.
I would get one thru a pitbull rescue. They've lived with and evaluated the dogs they adopt out, so can tell you just what to expect.
 
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Old 06-24-20, 05:06 PM
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Sorry but just not a pit bull of any type fan.
Just to unpredictable!
Had one living down the street from me that got along get with kids, my dog would go down there and they got along great.
Owner comes by the house with the dog on the leash and it tried to rip my dogs throat out.
 
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would a doberman, shepherd, or rottweiler be less unpredictable?
 
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Old 06-25-20, 03:32 AM
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Michael, Visit this site and you will probably change your mind about having a pit bull. They are by far responsible for the most dog attack fatalities than any other breed. I also disagree about "rescue" pit bulls. As JoeCaption said - they are unpredictable. One day they are sweet loving dogs and the next they are eating your kid's face off.
 
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Old 06-25-20, 05:16 AM
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Michael,

There are alternatives to the APBT which is still a very temperamentally unstable breed. This is mainly due to lack of committed breeding programs and lack of solid foundation dogs of stable and sound temperaments.

If she has her heart set on a "Bully Type" I would encourage you to contact a reputable breeder of American Staffordshire Terriers who has been breeding AND showing their breed for at least 10 years. Any reputable breeder will have dogs of stable temperament and be just as much a family dog, as a protector with proper training.

Staffies or AmStaffs are solid and predictable dogs with the same positive attributes that the APBT has, but without the instability(when purchased from a responsible and reputable breeder) that Pitbulls have.

I would steer you clear away of any dog not bred by a reputable breeder for any sort of protection work...it saves a lot of heartache and dangerous situations, when you know the background and bloodlines of such a dog.

I am definitely not "anti-Pitbull" at all, but I also have seen what can happen with any of the Bully breeds when the dogs do not have a stable mentality, which comes from a reputable and responsible breeding program.

Do keep us posted on what you choose to do.
 
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You might want to check with your insurance company before getting a dog. My homeowner's ins either excludes liability or charges extra for certain breeds of dogs. Pitbulls are one of those. They send someone out every so many yrs to verify the property being insured is insurance worthy. One of the pics they took when they came out last time was of my collie/shepard mix.
 
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Mark, I had forgotten about the insurance angle. My insurance specifically exempts several breeds from my coverage, one of which is the pit bull.

What a lot of folks and pit bull apologist's don't understand is that pit bulls are naturally inclined to be nasty. Just like a beagle is naturally inclined to chase rabbits, a lab is naturally inclined to retrieve sticks, pit bulls are naturally inclined to fight. Add on top of that irresponsible breeding, cruelty of owners and dogs deliberately trained to attack. If you watch Judge Judy you'll get her opinion of the breed based on the cases she sees in her "courtroom." I don't know how many times I've seen dog owners in tears describing how a pit bull gutted their family pet.

As you can guess I am not a fan of the breed. That started when my 3 year old daughter and I were attacked by one that broke his rotted cloths line leash. The only thing that saved her from injury. was the broken rope got tangled in a broken down fence before he could reach her.
 
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How would you characterize the person who will be the owner master? Some people are not suited to successfully own strong willed dogs. I am sure you know owners who have never corrected or otherwise established dominance over an animal. They let their pet bark, scratch, growl, pull at the leash, bound out doors, etc. Essentially these are passive owners. Is this breed a good match for this owner?

Some people can can even make “purse dogs” a terror to be around.
 
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the more I research pit bulls the more I'm leaning that they can be unpredictable, e.g. 5 years of being a loving dog and then turn around and attack.
my daughter isn't the type of person that would handle herself well in that situation.
in researching alternatives, it's pointing more towards either a boxer or a short-haired German Shepherd.
They are more intelligent so they can figure out things better for themselves that a first-time trainer might not be able to communicate as effectively and they're (reportedly) not as unpredicatble.
definitely the tip to get from a breeder is one I'll follow if at all po$$ible.
anyone have thoughts/experiences they can share on either a boxer or a shepherd?
 
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Old 06-26-20, 12:39 PM
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Michael,

I definitely think a Boxer would be a good idea. Again with the caveat to be sure not to buy from a backyard/irresponsible breeder or pet store. German Shepherds are awesome dogs, but in all honesty, more of a breed for experienced owners. Meaning no disrespect to your daughter.

Your daughter can go through a good training course with the pup when she gets it and will learn along with the pup as it grows, to be a good owner.

If you have any questions about the type of trainer or training to look for, or how to find a good breeder, please feel free to reach out.
 
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