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Old 06-30-04, 07:38 PM
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i have a concord digital camera with 8x digital optical zoom. i recently went to myrtle beach and i tried two different times to take pics of the moon shining on the ocean because i thought that it would be a great pic to put on the wall or as a background or something. when i took the picture it turned out black. i tried to zoom in and tried scene selection but it still wouldn't work. my mom's camera is a 3.0 mega-pixel camera and i have the settings on fine for the quality. i have installed a 128mb sd-ram card in it so i could take more pics. sometimes when i take pics of people, there are small lines in the picture and it might be a little blury but that is only when i zoom in. any suggestions. thanks for any help.
 
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Old 06-30-04, 08:13 PM
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littleworker,

Firstly, taking pictures in low light is not what a lot of digital cameras are good at.
It takes a relatively expensive camera to have good light gathering ability and manual focusing which are both needed for night shots.

Bluriness could be caused by either not enough light to autofocus or the fact that when zooming you need a steadier hand because shake or camera movement is exaggerated when zooming.
Sometimes using the red eye reduction flash setting will improve focussing in low light.

If you have a program like Photoshop or some other way of working with pictures in your computer I would suggest you do not use digital zoom in the camera.
In most cases you can do a better job of this in your computer by cropping.

Describe in greater detail the types of pictures where lines appear.

Which model of Concord do you have?
 
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Old 07-03-04, 06:16 PM
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As Greg said, the problem was probably too low a light level. The flash is of no use for what you are doing. If you have a "no flash" setting, use it, so that the camera is aware that there is no flash and will take a longer exposure time to compensate. FYI, digital zoom should be at 1x, i.e. no digital zoom.

If that doesn't work, also zoom OUT on the optical zoom. This will lower the f-number and make the moon appear brighter (but unfortunately smaller also). Guess I'd take pictures both at maximum zoom IN and zoom OUT, just to have everything covered.

Originally Posted by littleworker
i have a concord digital camera with 8x digital optical zoom.
Do you mean digital zoom or optical zoom? They are two different things, there is no "digital optical" zoom.

I consider digital zoom a waste of time. As Greg said, you can do this on the computer if you need to, and I find I never need it. Would love to strangle the ad/marketing people who extort the virtues of digital zoom.

However, optical zoom is totally different, in that it is actually a useful feature.
 
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Old 07-04-04, 08:47 AM
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My mom's camera is a 3.1 mp concord q eye 3042 af with 4x digital zoom and a 9.0 mm f/2.8 lens on it. i hope this helps and it does have 3 scene selections: party/indoor, beach snow, and night portrait. thakns for all the help guys.
 
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Old 07-04-04, 10:22 AM
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Concord has a fair bit of info on your camera.

<img src="http://www.concordcam.com/support/faq/eyeq_3042af/3042af_f.jpg">
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As Mark suggested you would do well to not use digital zoom as you will gather more light when shooting in normal mode.

The night portrait setting turns on the flash and also slows the shutter speed to allow some of the background be visible.
The downside to this setting is that due to the slower shutter speed, hand movement is exagerated. You really should use a tripod for crisper pictures when using this setting.
There is really no setting that will allow you to take pictures of the moon.
The blurriness of people when using the flash could either be from there not being enough light for the autofocus to work or if you are using the portrait setting, from hand shake.

Owning an inexpensive camera like this is the best way to break into photography in general.
It allows you to see your results right away and immediately go back to make corrections.
An inexpensive camera as well will let you know when it is time to upgrade.
If you take a particular interest in photograpy and not just in taking snapshots you will know which feature you would most like to work with.
 
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Old 08-02-04, 03:56 PM
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For low-light shots - like one of the moon - you really need to keep the shutter open for a longer time. Do any of the digital cameras have a "B" shutter speed setting? Mine doesn't allow any control of shutter speed, even in "Manual" mode.
 
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Yes, there are digital cameras that allow you to set the shutter speed and/or lens aperture just like many conventional film cameras do. And also like conventional cameras, you must pay more money in order to get a camera with advanced features like that. The more economical "point-and-shoot" digital cameras will not have this ability.

Not sure what is meant be a "B" setting. My camera, a Nikon Coolpix 4500, let's you adjust shutter speed from 8 seconds down to 1/2000 sec.

p.s. I guess people realize this forum can be used to discuss conventional film photography too.
 
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Old 08-05-04, 05:21 AM
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The B setting for exposure is one that allows the shutter to remain open or I suppose in digital, the CCD to accept an image, as long as the shutter release is held down.

There are many places where this would be useful, as in holding the shutter open on a dark night and waiting for a lightning bolt to be captured.

I have only had a digital camera for two years and find the transition from film to digital difficult.
Coming from a Canon A-1 with a 28 - 200 zoom lens, which is a semi-pro camera with lots of knobs and buttons, to a Fuji 2800, 6X optical zoom, which is essentially point and shoot, I am missing a lot of capability.
What little adjustment is there has to be done by scrolling through a menu, highlighting then selecting and then hoping the subject has not left.

When I get some time I'm going to research a high zoom semi-pro digital and I'll let you know what I find.
By semi-pro I mean a hot shoe for an external flash and lots of adjustment capability.

Any suggestions out there?


Here is one that doesn't have B but is interesting to me. A local dealer has one but not too sure about Panasonic though.

<img src="http://www.steves-digicams.com/images6/panasonic_fz10_sm.jpg">
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Old 08-05-04, 10:57 AM
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Or, with today's technology:

Got your charge coupled device? (ccd)
 
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Old 08-05-04, 08:05 PM
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GregH,

I agree about missing a lot of adjustment capabilities in digital cameras. I have a Minolta Maxxum, which is an SLR, and used to have a lot of fun with filters and manual exposures. My digital camera is basically a point and shoot (Canon Elph), but it's so convenient to carry around that I haven't picked up my SLR in at least a year.

That Lumix looks like it has a Leica lens. Is that right or are my eyes deceiving me?

As to where I'd like to see this forum: If Electrical & Electronics gets more traffic than Hobbies, then I'd leave it where it is! I happened to notice this forum when I went to Electrical to post a computer question. I didn't even know we had a Hobbies section. So if this forum had been in Hobbies, I'd have never found it.
 
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Old 08-05-04, 09:27 PM
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All Panasonic digital cameras use Lieca.
 
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Old 08-06-04, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by marturo
In reality it does not matter if you have a P&S or an SLR Film or Digital Camera just as long as you get out & shoot pictures.
Yes!

When I bought my first digital camera, it was my first non point 'n' shoot camera as well. I got more out of reading up on photography techniqes with conventional cameras than from any articles or books that were geared towards digital. All the stuff about framing, background, exposure and aperture setting, use of lighting and filters still applies. I know you can do a lot with Photoshop and similar software, but I prefer to use that stuff as little as possible by getting it right when I shoot the picture (or as close to right as possible)
 
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Old 08-06-04, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by marturo
In reality it does not matter if you have a P&S or an SLR Film or Digital Camera just as long as you get out & shoot pictures.
I agree too!!

When I first started using my Maxxum, I used to carry around a pocket notebook and after every shot I would write down its exposure, aperture, speed, etc. I did that on vacation too...it drove my wife nuts.

But it helped me improve my photography tremendously.
 
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Old 08-06-04, 06:01 PM
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Houseman said: I used to carry around a pocket notebook and after every shot I would write down its exposure, aperture, speed, etc.

You are so right Houseman, & if I had but one thing I could advise a new Photographer this would be it.
 

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