29 footer with 460 Ford engine


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Old 04-17-14, 08:40 AM
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29 footer with 460 Ford engine

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We have our sites on a motor home. It's 94 Ford something, with 460 engine. I am not sure about all the particularities, but I know it has 25 500 miles on it. Apparently owned by some older gent, who sounded very nice on the phone ans swears by MH quality and function.

My Q is: how are those engines? And trannies? Asking price is $7000, what does not sound too much for the entire bulk. Even has Onan generator.

But me being me, I am not a Ford guy.

What say you?
 
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Old 04-17-14, 08:45 AM
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The 460 was a real workhorse in those days...torque like crazy. Gonna eat you alive in gas though. Even in 3/4 ton pick-ups I think you were lucky to get 10 mpg if you had a light foot.

Think of them as the Ford 454...you'll get my meaning.
 
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Old 04-17-14, 09:32 AM
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I know NOTHING of those. I know my inlaw's work van Ford ran well into 300 000 miles with very crappy maintenance.
So, it is safe to presume that engine and transmission should be OK? But look more towards water leaks and internal functionality of the motor home itself?
I am not concerned about gas.
 
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The 460 Ford engine is rock solid, the transmissions are also good. I wouldn't have a problem whatsoever with that powertrain.
 
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Old 04-17-14, 10:28 AM
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Thank you. I am entering uncharted waters of my technical life here, so any help, honest advice, is much appreciated. Though it does not sound like much of $$ just looking at all you can buy, I know those can turn into total royal pita.
 
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Old 04-17-14, 11:10 AM
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When I said Ford 454...I meant it was Fords version of a Chevy 454...or vice versa. Big bore, long stroke, tons of torque and they could actually be hot rodded. I think the Chevy kinda had the edge there though. I believe both basically started out as truck motors and for the big heavy cars of the 60's and 70's.

Beau coups parts available, no problem. Nice old school design.
 
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Being a ford guy I might be a little biased but as the others said, the 460 is a good solid engine but it is thirsty. I don't know how bad it would be in a motor home but I had one in a 4x4 that struggled to get 8 mpg although hooking up a trailer to it never hurt it's mpg.
 
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Igor, I can't add anything but what the others have said. It is a boss on torque, but a hog on gas. My last one got 9 mpg. Graduated to a Cummins 5.9 turbo and my dually 3500 gets avg. 15 mpg.
 
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Old 04-17-14, 07:05 PM
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Cool. I am paid for gas, so I have decent leftover for toys. I can see though why guy chose to part with it.
i just turned key in it. fired right away and sounded very healthy. I'll take her for t-drive tomorrow, need my wife to take a look at the inside. It's no thrills, 6 can sleep and all necessary. Cabinetry and all that. Owner is a mechanic for some outfit. Needs TV, good stereo. More toys, he-he.
 
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Old 04-17-14, 07:07 PM
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Graduated to a Cummins 5.9 turbo and my dually 3500 gets avg. 15 mpg.
At $4 a gallon and oil change is 15 quarts!
 
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Old 04-18-14, 04:15 AM
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Well,yeah. But when I bought it, diesel was cheaper than gas in some parts. I could fill up for $60. Now I pump $1 worth per second. Takes over $120 in under 2 minutes. Only 11 quarts of oil thankfully. Some of the oil change places have literature that call for 13 quarts. One place ignored the warning I wrote on the radiator frame to only use 11 qts. It puked out oil all over their lot.

433,000 miles. Can't complain too much. It's paid for.
 
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Yep, those 460s are torque monsters. Wife had one in her '85 F250, thing pulled like a freight train. Gas stations were hard to pass by tho...
 
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My neighbor bought a 32 ft bounder. has the 454. It basically cant get out of its own way. Guess it dont matter its has some torque when its 16k lbs.... Gets 4 mpg or so. maybe more. He constantly complains and it sits in his drive way.

Its costs him $300 bucks to fill the tank..

The first thing that went after his drive home from NY was the trans. He fixed it but it cost almost 3K.

He is constantly saying that he is "going to by a diesel , im going to buy a diesel" He cant give that camper away which he has been trying too, and has had it for sale.

He only wants 7k for it too. Its beautiful, clean and what not... Also note: When or if you break down not anyone can come and tow you. make sure you have proper tow insurance. Youll be looking at $$$$ to tow that thing anywhere...

Well what I am saying is you may be sorry you buy that, but maybe not. To each is own. Unless the price is absolutely , unbelievably low... maybe..

Just my two cents, but at least your going to test drive it so thats the best...
 
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Old 04-18-14, 07:22 AM
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Also exhaust manifolds crack and leak. Well knows issue on both the 454 and the 460. Its an expensive repair.

I also read something about the brake fluid turning to gunk from the high heat under the engine compartment. Once it gets to the cylinders time to replace as they lock up..

Not to be negative though. RV'ing is great. Have fun with it if you buy it...Just want you to be informed before your purchase...
 
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Yep, exhaust manifold issues were very common on most of the MHs I worked on. Probably the #1 engine repair job IIRC. Chrysler, Fords, and Chevs all seemed to be prone to this. I do remember that a couple of owners finally said "the heck with this" and installed after-market headers. After that it was just a matter of replacing exh. gaskets now and then...
 
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Old 04-18-14, 04:27 PM
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I hear you. I passed on it anyway. Terrible squeak between bunk and cab roof. May be fixed, but... ABS light on. Headlights don't work. Stop light doesn't. Ford it is. Yes, I know, it's 20 yo. But on Fords headlights can be very expensive adventure. I'll just take my Ridgeline to a lake, if I need to.
 
 

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