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Old 06-17-03, 12:06 AM
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Bathroom sink

Any? tips or knowledge on best practices for household plumbing jobs
 
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Old 06-17-03, 05:36 AM
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Do a Search above on whatever plumbing subject of choice for a vast library of former posts.
Good Luck!
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Old 06-17-03, 08:25 AM
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Most important tip with plumbing is to take your time and make sure things fit right. You need to be patient and gentle, you can't muscle things into place. Like my mentor said "Son, you need to be an old bull"

If you don't know the story I will explain

An old bull and a young bull are standing on a hill overlooking a pasture of cows. The young bull says "lets run down this hill and get us one of those cows" The old bull says "lets walk down the hill and we can get all those cows"
 
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Old 06-17-03, 08:32 AM
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need thelp with 30 y/o house bathroom sink trap to drain
pipe from wall/ Can you help?
 
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Old 06-17-03, 08:51 AM
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sure we can, whats the problem?
 
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Old 06-17-03, 08:53 AM
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i need to connect sink trap to drain pipe from wall. how should i measure the connection coming from the walll to get proper connection?
 
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Old 06-17-03, 08:59 AM
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You'll need a 1.5" wall drain to 1.25" sink drain adapter.
The length will depend on whether you're using threaded pipe or slip nut compression fittings.
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Old 06-17-03, 09:01 AM
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how far should the connection and thread extend from the wall?
 
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Old 06-17-03, 03:28 PM
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per code the trap arm needs to extend a minimum of twice the diameter of the arm. This is measured from the weir of the trap to the inner edge of the vent.

Ok in english, the pipe that goes from the p-trap to the wall needs to be at least twice the size of the pipe. If you have a two inch pipe it needs to be 4" from the inner edge of the vent pipe to the dip part of the trap.
 
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Old 06-17-03, 03:41 PM
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Trap arm on a 1-1/2" to vent is 42" by my code book.
 
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Old 06-17-03, 04:28 PM
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yes 3' 6" is the MAXIMUM for 1 1/2" pipe and 5' for a 2" pipe. The minumum is twice the diameter of the pipe from weir to vent inlet.
 
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Old 06-17-03, 04:33 PM
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I don't think you have a min, the closest you can ever get would be about 2" if you count the hub of a 1-1/2" tee ans the trap adaptor, where in the code deos is say a min distance?
 
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Old 06-17-03, 04:42 PM
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I don't mean to upset anyone, I am only trying to help. As I said my code book is in my shop, I will look it up first thing in the morning and post the UPC Code # along with the passage.
 
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Does any one have or know where i can find these part images and specs easily? I now know that I have 1 1/2 abs wall bend adapter but i have a male threaded abs p trap adp 1 1/2 that is stuck and the male thread side of the adapter is damaged beyond use. Any ideas or ways to connect a pvc trap to this drain at wall bend. Only 1/2 to 3/4 inch of wall connection to work with
Thanks for the help!!!!!
 

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Old 06-17-03, 04:44 PM
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I'm not upset Ed,

I mean if I missed something in the code please correct me, I could very will over looked some wording in the code.

Thanks Ron
 
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Old 06-17-03, 05:08 PM
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Ct what I would do in your case is to look in the pipe and see if you can see the vent connection.(the pipe that this one dumps into) to see how much space you have left. IF you have say 2 inches past the trap adaptor, I would open the wall a little, cut the current trap adaptor as close as you can and glue a new one on. It may be a little tough to cut the old adaptor off so use a bare hacksaw blade wrapped with electrical tape at one end.
 
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holy cow! let me try this. it makes sense to me:-). Thanks! I will post the outcome.
 
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Old 06-17-03, 05:22 PM
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If that don't work, and you have no room, there is a tool called a rambit, which can remove existing plactic pipe out of the plastic hub of a fitting, where you could reuse the hub of the tee and glue in a new piece of pipe, and then use a new trap adaptor.

 
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best way or tool to open the drywalll. Currently about 3 in = dia hole?
 
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Old 06-17-03, 05:32 PM
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You see the picture above?

Ok what you need to find out is, is there any spare pipeing between the existing trap adaptor and the hub of the tee in the wall, you need at least 3/4" of usable pipe after you cut off the existing trap adaptor, you can get by with 1/2" usable pipe, you don't need to open the wall to check this out, just cut a slot out on the wall above the point, take a flashlight and see how much you have to the tee in the wall.

If you have pipe to glue the new adaptor onto, then cut open the wall bigger so you can cut the old adaptor off and glue the new one on.

You be the judge on how much wall to cut out. Your the one there.
 
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On the right tracklbest way to glue new adaoter onto pie after cutting current adapter at start of wall bend. more info on the rambit tool and where to find tool?
I like that idea best.
 
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Old 06-17-03, 05:46 PM
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Check with a plumbing supply house, Home Depot might have them, print the picture out so you can show them what it looks like.
 
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Old 06-18-03, 09:15 AM
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Ron for information sake only, the code that specifies minimum trap arm length is 1002.2 of the 2000 UPC

Each fixture trap shall have a protecting vent so located that the developed length of the trap arm from the trap weir to the inner edge of the vent shall be within the distance given in table 10-1, but in no case less than (2) two times the diameter of the trap arm.
 
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Old 06-18-03, 02:38 PM
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Yep true, in most cases you will never be less then that what is set at the min, as long as you count the weir of the trap to the inner edge of the said vent.

The closest thing that could set you too close would be working with a pedistal sink.

In most cases, an inspector will more them likely overlook this part of the code, to me this passage of the code makes no since, I doubt if it was too colse it would actually effect the drainage of a sink line.

But the code is there.
 
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I have only found the tool pictured on one site. It it a $35+ tool? No one local seems to have it. Any ideas?
 
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Old 06-23-03, 08:08 PM
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Thats about what they cost, there not cheap but to fix it without opening a wall makes it worth it.
 
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Thanks again. Would you recommend any particular site or one that you have had a positive expeience with?
 
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Old 06-23-03, 08:43 PM
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Any site will work, make sure you get the 1-1/2" one, when you get it, you will see different large washers on the end of it, use the one that just fits inside the pipe, take your time, and not to fast drilling, these work great, also only go in as far as the pipe is glued into the hub of the fitting.
 
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Old 06-23-03, 08:49 PM
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Thanks for your time. I let you know the end result whenever I get there.
Chad
 
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Chad,
Re your PM. Looks like Ron and Ed have you on the right track. Ron is a pro (I'm not) and Ed is right on, so you can't go wrong.
Good Luck!
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