Toilet with Intermittent Refill


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Old 08-28-03, 06:41 AM
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Question Toilet with Intermittent Refill

Ok just moved into 24 year old house with some very creative plumbing and electrical work. My problem currently is our Master Bathroom toilet seems to only refill intermittently.

The water supply line is on, the floater has been moved manually and played with but for some reason water doesn't seem to flow into toilet on demand.

Over past 3 days of being in house the toilet mysteriously fills up again at some point and can be flushed. I have run water in sink next to toilet and turned on shower and nothing seems to generate water going into the toilet. I have not been fortunate enough to be around when toilet does refill but every morning when I get up, it's filled and can be flushed again. I figure it's some kind of water diverting problem but I am just guessing.

One thing I know for sure, when toilet does flush it sounds like Niagra Falls and gushes of water downstairs from bathroom. It's loudest toilet in house and loudest I have ever heard in my life.

Plus all our water faucets through out house all seem to sputter and gurgle alot when first turned on and this is after several days of being in house already.

I have read through forums for ideas and have some but figured I would put my problem out there and see if anyone had a suggestion.

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Old 08-28-03, 09:26 AM
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Replace the toilet tank water inlet valve with a Fluidmaster 400A float-cup type (about $5-$7 bucks).
Just follow the directions that come with it. Easy.
The sputtering is most likely just air in the lines, and should go away pretty quickly.
Good Luck!
 
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Old 08-30-03, 07:26 AM
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after changing the ball**** change the flapper. also do you have a PRV in your home?this may have something to do with the sputter . Or do you have a well for your domestic water system? when changing the ball **** open the valve to the toilet to see if you have full pressure by putting a 3/8 tube in the valve and putting the tube in a bucket then open the valve.
 
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Old 08-31-03, 05:22 AM
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Thanks Mike and Trenchless for the replies.

I had replaced toilets in my previous house with the Fluidmaster and was very happy with them. These are all new toilets just installed by previous homeowner but then house sat empty for about 7 months. So all the equipment is pretty much brand new looking.

I am not sure what PVR is but I am not on a Well I am on Public Water for sure and Sewage is a maybe, not sure on that one.

I am going to try your suggestions that you both recommended but I have to say the sputtering the faucets and showers still do after a week and turning on all faucets full throttle still bothers me. Shouldn't air in the lines have worked itself out by now?

Thanks for your help
 
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Old 08-31-03, 06:02 AM
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A PRV is a Pressure Reducing Valve located on your main supply line (after the meter) to reduce public water pressure.
Call your public water supplier to find out what their street pressure is at the meter. If it's around 80 psi or so, you probably have a PRV to reduce yours to 60 psi or so.
A PRV can be adjusted to decrease or increase water pressure, and also can be repaired or replaced, as necessary.
Your PRV may have a threaded bolt sticking up with locknut on it. To adjust it, loosen the locknut, and turn it down to increase pressure, and up to decrease pressure (with water ON). Tighten the locknut after you adjust the pressure to where you want it.
Air in the lines could be caused by water being turned off at the meter and draining the lines, or nearby work on the public lines (repairs, connections, etc.).
It sounds like you may have a PRV problem. Let us know what you find.
Good Luck!
 
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Old 08-31-03, 07:38 AM
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scully, 80 lbs is the max water pressure you want after the PRV. you may want to go out to your water meter and see if the needle is moving on the water meter when no one is useing water. You can get results like you are getting when you have an under ground leak.a clogged water line after the main valve and a leak after the pluggged water line can cause a surge in air as the line is refilling. You may need to call a licenced master plumber on this one.
 
 

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