"No Flush" not "Low Flush"

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Old 04-26-00, 07:48 PM
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I've been in this house for almost two years now and am nearly as fed up with this problem as my wife was after two months. We have two toilets with continual problems stopping up. It appears that the blockage always occurs within the trapway, not downstream, and usually one quick stroke with the plunger frees it up.

Is this mainly a characteristic of the "low flush" design, just an unfortunate choice of a poorly designed model or what?? Any suggestions for what to look for in a replacement?
 
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Old 04-26-00, 08:18 PM
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KOHLER MAKES A GOOD TOILET WITH A LARGE TRAP
OPENING, BUT YOU WILL NEED TO REPLACE THE FLAPPER TO OBTAIN A FULLER FLUSH, ALTHOUGH THEY DO PRETTY WELL OUT OF THE BOX.
 
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Old 04-27-00, 09:51 AM
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I have seen a test done with the American Standard Cadet setting next to the Kohler Wellworth, outside on a platform water supplied to them with the normal drain setup comming out the back, all floats flappers set to maufacturing recommendations, they would take a 2" plastic ball and flush it through the toilets, (others will agrue this cause) each time the ball was flushed through the toilets, the Koher required 2 flushes to get the ball all the way through the trap way, so you can see why this could be a problem with clogged toilets by Kohler, where as the American Standard was able to flush the plastic ball each and EVERY TIME all the way though the trap. This test sold me on American Standard toilets (Style Cadet), don't get me wrong here I'm sure there are other good flushers out there, the main thing is you will want a toilet that will carry everything out on the 1st flush, and not have to flush more then once, ok back to the kohler test, ok so you go a buy a kohler toilet, (Style Wellworth), you install it and test it, you see it works great, and say finally I have a toilet that works like it should, next thing you know your getting out the plunger to clear the toilet often, and you ask your self why is this, simple answer, Kohler will leave stuff suspened in the trap way and you don't know it's happening until it almost overflows on you.
This is my point of view, American Standard sold me on the test and so I will stay with American Standard, Cadet
 
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Old 04-29-00, 11:13 PM
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I CONSIDER THE TWO TOILETS TO BE EQUAL IN
IN THE WAY THEY FLUSH. I'VE INSTALLED SEVERAL OF EACH OVER THE YEARS AND NEITHER IS UP TO
STANDARD UNLESS YOU INSTALL AN ORDINARY FLAPPER ON IT. I HAVE NOT TRYED A GOLF BALL YET..
 
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Old 04-30-00, 12:26 AM
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Not a golf ball a 2" plastic ball, I surely would not want a tiolet that will suspend sfuff in the trap way.

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What about a presure assist toliet,we have a dozen or so where I work and they never clog,but when you go to repair them they are expensive.

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Old 04-30-00, 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by LI handyman:
What about a presure assist toliet,we have a dozen or so where I work and they never clog,but when you go to repair them they are expensive.




Consumer reports says there the way to go over the gravity flow type.

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