Question regarding what kind of pipe this is?


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Old 03-01-13, 08:47 AM
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Question regarding what kind of pipe this is?

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I have a very small leak on my incoming water line in my basement. My question regards what kind of pipe the incoming water line is (or at least the elbow coming in is). Below is a photo:

The line leaving the elbow vertically is 1/2" coppper and connects into the water meter. The elbow is what has me stumped. It runs quited deep back under the wall (I haven't been able to reach far enough back to find a joint yet). I'm guessing this is some kind of galvanized steel fitting? Or is it possible it's brass? The way the copper is attached seems quite odd to me and it's that connection that is leaking. Thanks for any help!
 
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Old 03-01-13, 09:18 AM
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Welcome to the forums.

It's pretty difficult to see the fitting with any detail but it looks like a bronze solder on elbow.

Since you say you can't detect the end of the fitting.....it almost sounds like the original pipe was swagged to fit the 1/2" copper.

How old is the house ?
 
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Old 03-01-13, 09:25 AM
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Thanks, I've been reading here for awhile but just joined now.
The house was built in 1922.
Not sure if this photo helps but here's another photo of the connection:

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Old 03-01-13, 10:37 AM
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Looks like a lead joint to me.... If it were me I would replace the service to the curb key...... Replace with poly.

They have trenchless technology today so shop around.

To repair that you will need to find an oldtimer...that is if its lead. The whole line to the street may be lead.

You drink the water? You can scrap the lead and recoup some money back...
 
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Old 03-01-13, 10:53 AM
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That's definitely not what I wanted to hear


We do drink the water. Should we not?

What roughly would you expect replacing the line to cost in North NJ? It's around 40 feet to the curb and about 5 feet under the ground at the basement floor. The first ~10' are under an enclosed porch with a crawl space. In front of the porch it's open lawn to the sidewalk and then to the curb.
 
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Old 03-01-13, 06:19 PM
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Vintage 1922....... very good chance the entire line is lead.

No.....you should not drink the water.

Lead has just about been eliminated from any product we routinely handle as well as all plumbing fixtures and even the solder is no longer lead.

Can't help you on the price of the job.
 
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I tried sticking a magnet to it and it's not magnetic. Also tried scratching it with a screwdriver and it's not bronze in color so it looks like it probably is lead. I've called a couple of different plumbers in the area to get estimates for a new water line. Does anyone have a recommendation for a plumber that services northern NJ?

Thanks,
Sam

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No sorry....... we can't help you with that.
 
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Also appears to be quite a bit of oxidation (green deposits) where your electric service ground is connected to the pipe. You should clean that to ensure a good ground connection and if the pipe is replaced by plastic, a new ground rod will need to be installed.
 
 

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