Drain wall outlet help


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Old 07-24-16, 01:05 PM
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Drain wall outlet help

Hi guys, I'm fixing my can of worm problem condo that apparently has been built by cutting every possible corner so far, and I'm having a minor problem with the wall drain outlet for the bathroom sink. The wall outlet is sticking out so far out for some reason the J joint of the p trap was facing back toward the wall to fit the old sink.

I need to shorten the outlet so that I won't waste space under the sink, but the problem is the pipe that comes out of the wall is welded with clusters of short pic pipes and sleeves and an elbow pipe and also the straight part of the P trap which is suppose to be screwed on to the outlet is also welded on the inside... (Plastic weld)
The outlet pipe has a bunch of sleeves on it so I cant cut a section of it and add a new one, and the straight part of the p trap is welded in so I can replace it for a short one.
The only option from reading DIY stuff is to bust the wall and replace the t joint which is my last resort. I was wondering is there any other method of fixing this issue?
Maybe cut part of the 1 1/2 p trap and shorten the pipe? Do they even sell sleeves for the thin pipes? Is there a miracle pipe repair kit?
Sorry if my explanation is confusing, never done all this until now...


Thanks in advance!
 
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Old 07-24-16, 05:50 PM
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Are you sure the trap arm is solvent welded into the pipe? It looks like there is a standard trap adapter there. You've tried unscrewing the metal nut and pulling the trap arm out?

If all else fails you could cut the pvc pipe next to one of the couplings or the tee socket and use a "PVC socket saver" to remove the piece of pipe that is welded into the socket. This would allow you to insert a new piece of PVC pipe with a new trap adapter. You should be able to do that without opening up the wall.

Here's a link to a 1.5 inch socket saver: https://www.amazon.com/Jones-Stephen...c+socket+saver

Probably the right size for a vanity drain, but double check.
 
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Old 07-24-16, 08:02 PM
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Hey thanks for the reply I didn't know such thing existed!
Maybe I can cut somewhere closer to the wall and drill the cut end out?

Yes I twisted it wiggled it with no luck the metal screw sleeve wasn't even screwed on tight. I'm guessing it was leaking in the past and they just welded it, very annoying since I'm so close to completing the small bathroom...

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Old 07-24-16, 08:53 PM
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Maybe cut part of the 1 1/2 p trap and shorten the pipe? Do they even sell sleeves for the thin pipes?
As CT said, I doubt if the trap arm is glued in. Even if it was, most glue would not hold the arm in very well. It's probably just jammed in with gunk.

If you want to cut the trap arm and attach a new slip tube trap there are several ways. Cut the trap arm no shorter than 1" from the trap adapter and you can use one or more of the following:
An 1-1/2" slip tube coupler, 1-1/2" slip tube elbow, or an 1-1/2" rubber coupler.

The 1-1/2" rubber coupler must be for tubular fittings, a regular coupler for ABS or PVC is too big.
 
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Thanks for the replies guys,

Yes I tried twisting it pulling it with all my might with no luck. I found out the j trap adaptor does fit perfectly snug without the screw so someone might of cemented the thing for some reason.

So I ended up finding a 1 1/2 to 1 1/2 J trap adaptor where one end is a male 1 1/2pvc and the other a slip on with the screw for the J trap.

I cut the trap leaving 1 inch from the outlet and the 1 1/2 male end's inner diameter happened to perfectly fit into the cut j trap end, so I primed and cemented it. (You can see the barcode where the pvc is suppose to fit over)
Cut short the other end of the j trap so i have an inch of a straight pipe before the bend and screwed it on.

So far it works without leaking, was able to shorten it by 2 inch.
Worst case scenario I can cut it at the adaptor again and dig the j trap out with the Socket saver.
 
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