Can sharkbite be pulled off a PVC pipe?


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Old 03-12-18, 06:19 PM
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Can sharkbite be pulled off a PVC pipe?

I have a sharkbite under my toilet (see picture). Unfortunately, it needs to be replaced. Can it be pulled off the white PVC pipe in the picture without cutting off the pvc pipe?
 
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Old 03-12-18, 06:27 PM
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Of course, that's one of their advantages. You need the removal tool to slide on it and it should come right off. Look at the store right near the Sharkbite fittings. Also, unless the color is off in your pic...I think that is CPVC pipe.
 
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Old 03-12-18, 06:32 PM
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It's a little harder to remove from plastic over metal as it grips the plastic harder. Using the removal tool it should come off. The key is being able to push the whitish colored ring into the back of the fitting. The following video is a quick overview of how to do it.

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Old 03-13-18, 06:07 AM
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That type of Shark Bite valve does not need the orange removal tool. It's built in on the fitting.
 
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Old 03-13-18, 04:46 PM
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Once I pulled it off, how likely is it the sharkbite will have left teeth mark on the plastic PVC pipe? I need to push in a replacement.

The flexible tube and sharkbite are once piece, and the ring on the flexible tube that connects to the toilet drain pipe flange cracked and is loose so I'm holding it with T PLUS 2 Ptfe enriched Pipe Thread Sealant (it's the type that does not dry up). See the pics.

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It has not leaked overnight and seems to be holding. If it's not going to leak with the sealant, it may be better if I don't replace the sharkbite. I am worried, in trying to replace the sharkbite, I may find the replacement sharkbite can't be put on properly due to any possible teeth mark on the plastic PVC pipe. Your advice?
 

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Old 03-13-18, 04:56 PM
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Yes... we can see that the flex hose is attached to the valve. A new valve should install in the same exact location so teeth marks shouldn't be an issue.

That hose is connected to the bottom of the toilet fill valve.
I wouldn't trust that repair permanently.

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Old 03-13-18, 06:49 PM
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In my experience Shark Bites do not leave any teeth marks that are visible with the naked eye. I have a demo Shark Bite tee fitting at the store with copper, PVC and ABS attached to it. Almost daily I will demonstrate the operation of the Shark Bite and as yet it never leaves any marks on the any of the pipes. It's not advised to constantly remove and reuse Shark Bites over and over. But I'm betting it's still good to go. Personally I have re-used Shark bites several time over and never experience a leak so far.

As Pete said I would not trust that hose fitting. Replace it as soon as possible.

The flex tube and Shark Bite valve are one piece? Never saw that type. I would replace both as separate pieces.
 
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Old 03-13-18, 09:37 PM
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I absolutely hate the permanently attached hoses to the valve. All the builders use them around here because it's quicker (and probably cheaper) than separate items. I'd replace with a separate hose and valve and not worry about it.

That cracked nut is a major water leak waiting to happen. If it blows off while the home is empty, you're going to have hundreds of gallons waiting for you when you get home..as well as thousands of dollars in damages.
 
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Since there is not much length from the wall once I grab that built in remover tool on the white CPVC pipe, I am finding it hard to pull back on the CPVC pipe once I grap the remover tool on the pipe. Any advice? I need to be very careful so I don't break or crack the CPVC pipe as Itry to remove the sharkbite.

Now the sharkbite I am trying to remove is the below.


It's described at https://www.lowes.com/pd/SharkBite-C...lve/1000182489. Anyone know if it's possible to remove the flexible hose from this kit? If it's possible to remove and replace the flexible hose without messing with the sharkbite, that will be safer thing to do. Thanks for your advices and help.
 
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Old 03-16-18, 05:31 PM
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No... the hose is permanently attached to that valve. The one piece design is a cost savings idea which is why it was used. As mentioned.... the release clip is already attached to the valve. According to the specs it says "The CLICK SEAL technology also means there is no need for tools, simply turn the CLICK SEAL nut until it clicks and you have a secure seal". That seems to indicate that you would have to turn that nut until it releases to allow you to slide the clip and remove the valve from the pipe.

You will be turning slightly and pulling the valve away from the wall.

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I'm beginning to think maybe I'm mistaken about the seal nut being broken. The lowes page does say "Click-seal nut provides an audible click to ensure a sealed connection without the need to use tools to install" When I tightened the nut with my hand, I heard a click that made me thing something cracked. After that about a minute later, when I put my pinkie finder under the nut and pushed up, I could feel a water drop coming out the bottom of the nut. If I held my pinkie there and kept pushing up, I think more water drops would have come out which alarmed me. I removed the nut from the bottom of the toilet, and looked at it. It seems to look ok. I don't see anything broken. It looks like below. What do you think? I tightened back on again onto the bottom of the toilet, and after a certain amount of torque, it made the clicking sound again. I'm hoping that I'm freaking out over a good sealing nut.

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Old 03-16-18, 08:39 PM
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the toilet drain pipe flange cracked and is loose so I'm holding it with T PLUS 2 Ptfe enriched Pipe Thread Sealant
I'm a little lost..... it was cracked and leaking.
Now it's not cracked.... is it still leaking ?
 

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Since there is not much length from the wall once I grab that built in remover tool on the white CPVC pipe, I am finding it hard to pull back on the CPVC pipe once I grap the remover tool on the pipe. Any advice? I need to be very careful so I don't break or crack the CPVC pipe as Itry to remove the sharkbite.
There are Shark bite removal tongs that will help you remove the fitting without putting undue strain on the pipe.
 
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I understand about my losing you as I'm a bit confused myself. What alarmed me was that clicking noise, which made me think the nut cracked maybe very slightly, beyond certain amount of torque on the sealing nut, and a droplet of water when I pushed on the bottom on the net with my pinkie or rather with my fingernail of my pinkie. I loosened the sealing nut completely and looked at it, and it looks ok. I don't see anything cracked, and teeth gooves look ok. Based on Lowe's product page, and my loosening the nut and re-torqued it beyond the clicking, I think the clicking noise on the sealing nut is by design, and is to let you know that you've reached the recommended torque when tightening it. I have reattched to the bottom of the toilet. It is not leaking, but when I pushed on the bottom of the sealing nut with my pinkie fingernail, one droplet of water got on my fingernail. I'll keep an eye on it during this weekend as I'll be home.
 
 

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