Quarter turn gas valve not opening.

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Old 11-10-18, 09:37 AM
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Quarter turn gas valve not opening.

So there is a gas connection for an oven that I was trying to make use of, just to check I oppened the shut off valve and listened, no gas sound no gas smell. I put soap on it. No bubbles.

is it possibly that this valve isn’t opening. It been untouched in the closed position for years.

Here is the valve with the handle removed:




And here is the hole I’d expect gas to pour out of when I opened it, but nothing happened.


 
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When a gas appliance is removed it's common practice to seal the end of the gas line with a plug in case the valve leaks or is accidentally opened. Is the end of your gas line open or plugged? Is the gas turned on to your home?
 
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Old 11-10-18, 09:57 AM
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The gas line appears to be open. I can stick a pEncil into it. Yes there is gas in the rest of the house. In fact there is gas at the stove top about 3 ft away which almost certainly comes from the same branch off the main gas pipe.
 
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Old 11-10-18, 10:39 AM
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Here is a better picture of where I'd expect the gas to come out of. This appears to just be a reduction from 3/4 to 3/8 or whatever.

 
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there is gas at the stove top about 3 ft away which almost certainly comes from the same branch off the main gas pipe.
You must confirm this. I'm betting there is another valve at the far end that feeds just that line.
 
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I agree with Norm, I think it is highly unlikely that a 1/4 turn valve is not opening when you turn it. Are you sure you're turning it only a 1/4 turn? Some valves spin 360 and go on/off/on/off.

I'd go looking for another valve. The setup is also odd for a stove. I would have expected an 'always on' pipe coming out of the floor into an above-floor valve.
 
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Old 11-10-18, 06:16 PM
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Here is a photo of the kitchen.

circled are two quarter turn valves (yes I’m sure they’re quarter turn valves)

the red arrow is where I know the gas pipe runs vertically from the water heaters 1 floor below, to the furnace two floors above.

that is the only gas pipe I am aware of.

the stove has gas.

The gas pipes are behind that tiled embedded in a brick wall. I’d like to eliminate every possible option that I can before taking a chisel to the wall.

 
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Old 11-10-18, 06:30 PM
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The valve above the stovetop controls the gas to that appliance and is 1/4 turn.

The floor is a slab, the wall where the red arrow is located is an opening in the slab which runs from th basement to the roof and contains water pipes, a gas pipe, hvac ducts and chimney ducts. While it’s possible that another gas pipe comes up through the slab in the wall, it seems very unlikely.
 
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Old 11-17-18, 07:39 PM
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So here is the thoroughly annoying resolution to this.

the day after I post this, my in-laws come over and I tell my father in law about the problem. Fast forward a couple hours and they leave and my wife says, by the way, the gas works.

i said, “no way, how did he fix it?”

”he just opened the valve, I watched him”

”are you sure it works?”

”try it”

i try try it, you can instantly hear and smell gas.

i tell my wife “no way, call him and ask what he did.”

she calls him, “he says he opened the valve”


anyway this is not possible, so either they’re screwing with me or the universe is screwing with me, but either way it works now.
 
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Old 11-18-18, 06:48 AM
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universe is screwing with me
It happens... been there done that.

Happy it's working as expected!
 
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Old 11-18-18, 09:44 AM
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I would still like to know what they did that you did not!
 
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I would still like to know what they did that you did not!
so would I.

the only think I can think of is maybe there was an air bubble or something that got in the line between the two valves and ....

but it even as I type this I realize it doesn’t make any sense.
 
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