shut off valve will only turn if packing nut is loosened

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shut off valve will only turn if packing nut is loosened

I have a shut off valve going to a washing machine but it won't turn unless I loosen the packing nut to the point where it leaks. What problem is going on here?
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08-08-20, 04:22 PM
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I would replace those valves with 1/2" threaded valves. Easy to replace after the water is shut off.
They are 1/4 turn ball type valves.
 
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The packing is probably worn out and needs replacing. On most valves you can leave the water to the house turned on and replace the packing as long as the valve is in the closed position.
 
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Is there any way to get the nut off with the box in the way? I can't unscrew the handle.
 
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I would look into replacing those old valves. They will be hard to work on in there. I'm trying to get a fix on the type of valves you have. The newer valves are ball valves and turn much easier with no nuts to leak. You can take the four screws out of the cover and post a closeup picture of the valves.

 
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You can use offset (90) screwdriver to get the handle off.



You can use a Phillips socket and socket wrench.


You can also use a screw driver bit like you'd use in a cordless screw driver or drill and turn it with a 1/4" wrench.
 
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I also would replace the valves.
Just be sure that the replacement spigot does not extend too far as you have to be able to turn it inside the cover.
I would stick with the handle type valves as levers can be a pain if they end up oriented the wrong way.

Might not be a bad idea to also replace the hoses as hey look fairly old or at minimum replace the rubber washers.
 
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If you're going to replace the valve set, go for the single lever that controls both hot and cold.
 
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Mine are 6" apart, the single lever I've seen are about 2" apart, I don't see any that would fit.
Someone asked for a closeup of the valve, here's a pic:

 
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Mine are 6" apart, the single lever I've seen are about 2" apart, I don't see any that would fit.
Actually there is one that will fit.

Might not be worth the effort to change it out.


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It looks like the valves are threaded on. That's why I recommended changing them.
I wasn't recommending soldering new valves. Need to see below the valves for type of connection.
 
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Actually there is one that will fit.
Thanks...a little too difficult.
 

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It looks to be threaded on. I can't find the handle type, are shark bites ok?

 
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Well normally I would not recommend Shakbites behind a wall. But in this case I'd be willing to go for it.

But why? The valves are screwed on. Easy enough to replace.

Now days most of the isolation valves are 1/4 turn. No more washer type.
 
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I would replace those valves with 1/2" threaded valves. Easy to replace after the water is shut off.
They are 1/4 turn ball type valves.
 
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PLUS ONE on Changing _ Out

Yeah ,Just Change them , as the Blue on the one says it's Corroded Up and Way Easier to use and Open Wrench
on those or Plumber Wrench . . Then After those are Off ~ U ~ Rebuild . . and Sell Them ~ Fast ~ LOL

No You could save them if this is something U do Offend . .
 

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my local store only carries the color coded in a very long stem variety, would that work. The other option is something called a boiler drain, would that work?

 
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Yes you could use the boiler drains, but that would be no, better than what you already have.
 
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PjMax:
I would replace those valves with 1/2" threaded valves. Easy to replace after the water is shut off.
They are 1/4 turn ball type valves.
I'll go with these, strange but Amazon is the only place that sells them apparently.
 
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Should I use Thread Seal Tape?
 
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Yes.... that is a tapered pipe thread and requires teflon tape or thread sealant.
 
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Any suggestions on how to break these valves loose, I can't get them to budge.
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Two pipe wrenches and maybe a cheater bar om each.
 
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Got them in, thanks for the help!


 
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Two pipe wrenches and maybe a cheater bar om each.
If at first you fail, get a bigger wrench (or hammer)

Glad to hear you got them replaced!
 
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