Hello everyone, I am really looking for some help with a water feature that I wat to add to my back yard, here is the info: I have a small space and I am thinking about building a small pondless waterfall and fountain. The space is about 5 feet wide by about 7 feet long and sits right next to a new patio that I had installed. I am going to be putting up a wall that would sit about 3 feet high and would like to have the waterfall start right behind the wall. I would like a fountain that shoots water into the air and then back down onto the rocks at the base of the falls, where the base tub would be. From what I have read on this site it looks like a "pondless" waterfall is a shallow pond waterfall with the pond filled up with rocks, is this correct? It looks like everyone is selling this upsidedown tub with a bunch of holes in it to allow more water around the water pump. So this is what I am kinda thinking: place a small pond in the ground and fill with a small amount of rocks. Place a pump that has both fountain and waterfall outlets under a big upside down bucket with a bunch of holes in that are not bigger than the rocks. one hole in the top (bottom) of the bucket with the fountain extension sticking out to ground level. Fill everything with rocks and have the falls designed to start at the top of me wall and run back into the base tub area. Does this seem like it would work correctly? One of my main questions is what size pump do I need to get to do both of these features and pump the correct amount of water to each item (fountain and falls)? Do they make pumps that do both and has anyone had any luck with doing something like this before? Thank you to anyone that can add some light to this subject and help me figure out what type of pump to buy to make this work correctly. Have a great day !

We had what I'll call a natural pond in our front yard for the past nine or so years. It was ~35x35 feet, and was actually a retention/detention pond for storm water. It was usually less than a foot deep, but after a storm would get to maybe a bit over a foot before it would overrun down a slight grade into the woods. Between rains the water level would fall very very slowly and only dry out extremely rarely. (About once every several years.) The inlet pipe ended up shifting somehow, and where it connected to the next section of pipe upstream the ground eroded and formed an unsafe hole, so the city came out and re-set the pipe and corrected the problem. Unfortunately they also decided to deepen the pond by ~8 inches to increase retention capacity, and just dug out the bottom. In the process I noticed they dug out a lot of river stone that was apparently just under the layer of mud at the bottom. So now the problem - there is no longer any semblance of a pond. Even after prolonged hard rainfall, water never accumulates. At the peak of a hard storm an inch or two may build up, but it seeps into the ground extremely rapidly as soon as the rain lightens up. My questions are what happened, and how can we get it back the way it was? Is it possible that the riverstone at the bottom was limiting the seep into the ground that much? Is it matter of having enough silt and sediment build up at the bottom that will somehow reduce ground seep? We've been looking at a dry mud bed for the last several months that is starting to grow over with grass and weeds. Is there any way to get our retention pond back without dropping in a liner? It's a county easement, so not sure we could put in a liner even if we wanted to.