Rekeying Schlage 6 pin lock to 5 pins?

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Old 12-25-16, 01:46 PM
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Rekeying Schlage 6 pin lock to 5 pins?

Happy Holidays!

I'm looking to buy the following locks:

http://consumer.schlage.com/products...ber=B60N%20619

Plymouth Knob with Greenwich trim Keyed Entry Lock

http://consumer.schlage.com/products...60%20PLY%20619

I'd like all the locks to use the same key. I was planning to buy this re-keying kit to make that happen - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008RIDQD0...=IRVFHMPRARVOV

The problem is that both the knob and the handle set come with 5 pin cylinders. The deadbolt comes with a 6 pin cylinder. Can I leave the 6th pin empty on the deadbolt? Is there a better / different solution?

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Old 12-25-16, 08:45 PM
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On the Specification tab for the deadbolt, it states "5-pin tumbler C keyway standard, with two brass keys. 6-pin cylinder available".

Generally speaking, the only time you see six-pin keys today is on large Master Key systems.
 
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Old 12-25-16, 09:11 PM
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Thanks ThisOldMan. That was a mistake in my post - it's actually the handleset that says it comes with a 6-pin tumbler - http://consumer.schlage.com/products...60%20PLY%20619 (under specifications).

I still have the 6-pin problem - just on a different lock.

Can I get a 5-pin tumbler that replaces the 6-pin or can I just take out the last pin and leave it blank?

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Old 12-26-16, 08:00 AM
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There is no reason, size limitations excepted, a 6-pin cylinder can't be used in a 5-pin configuration; the lock will just cost a little more. A 6-pin cylinder uses more material and consequently requires more machining, but those costs might be offset by producing only one cylinder instead of two. That's why you see 6-pin cylinders with only 5 chambers used (6th chamber empty or MT as key records liked to write it).

I spent many years working on locks, including as a Schlage distributor. I seriously doubt you will find a residential grade Schlage lockset keyed 6-pin (outside of a large, for residential, master key system) as a standard stock item.

If you should have to drop a 6th pin, don't forget to drop the 'top pin' and 'spring' from the bible.
 
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Old 12-30-16, 07:48 PM
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Confirming ThisOldMan's comments, it's common to see 6-pin cylinders, but in the Schlage residential line, they've always been pinned to 5 only. So, yes, you can use the 6-pin cylinder, but leave the last chamber empty.

My curiosity is with the kit; Without studying the fine print/Q&A, it indicates rekeying a single lock, or possibly a double cylinder lock, but there appear to be sufficient pins to do several locks, unless they include top pins as well.

These kits should work fairly well with Schlage original locks, but may not do too well with aftermarket clones. This is where a locksmith's universal pinning kit comes in handy, with pin increments of .003". Occasionally, even with Schlage's excellent manufacturing tolerances, an original key might work smoother with a +- .003" pin change.
 
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Old 12-30-16, 08:31 PM
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My curiosity is with the kit; Without studying the fine print/Q&A, it indicates rekeying a single lock, or possibly a double cylinder lock, but there appear to be sufficient pins to do several locks,
I have used these kits two or three times. They have enough pins to re-key six locks.
 
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Old 12-31-16, 07:38 PM
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Thank you ma'am....that's a pretty good value, considering what a smithy would charge to come out and do the same thing.
 
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