New roof with shingles buckling
#1
02-07-11, 02:25 PM
New roof with shingles buckling
My roofer has told me for the second winter that this is normal. The image below the skylight shows where we've developed a leak from the shingles separating. Any comments for or against this being normal would be appreciated.
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#4
02-07-11, 05:19 PM
We have a 4/12 pitch and the old shingles were removed, so we have the one layer. Who would be a good source as a second opinion? County building inspector? BBB?
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02-08-11, 01:43 AM
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Looks to me that the plywood is buckling at the seems . Can you look in thew attic to see if this is the case? That is not normal. Sometimes when the roof if taken off the deck nails get caught in the tear offf spade and end up getting pulled.
#6
02-08-11, 10:58 AM
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Looks to me that the plywood is buckling at the seems . Can you look in thew attic to see if this is the case? That is not normal. Sometimes when the roof if taken off the deck nails get caught in the tear offf spade and end up getting pulled.
#8
02-08-11, 01:08 PM
Thanks for all your comments. The decking is 1x (not plywood), and surprisingly unbowed. What's the best thing I can do since my roofer isn't accepting blame or even there's a problem?
#11
02-09-11, 08:54 AM
Was there any replacement of the 1x roof decking when the shingles were replaced? What the pictures show is characteristic of the sheathing lifting. It is common below skylights when using plywood (especially fire treated plywood) because the skylight blocks the venting of the region. Is there a cathedral ceiling in this area? I note there are no ridge vents. Was there any provision for venting the area?
#12
02-09-11, 01:41 PM
Eclark,
There wasn't any 1x decking replaced with plywood below the skylights. The roof with skylights intersects a roof with roof vents. The roof with skylights has a gable vent without roof vents. There are soffit vents around the entire house. Photo 869 is the roof that is perpendicular to the skylight roof. There isn't a cathedral ceiling under the roof with skylights. The roof in photo 869 has cathedral ceilings at one end and that part of the roof isn't buckling.
There wasn't any 1x decking replaced with plywood below the skylights. The roof with skylights intersects a roof with roof vents. The roof with skylights has a gable vent without roof vents. There are soffit vents around the entire house. Photo 869 is the roof that is perpendicular to the skylight roof. There isn't a cathedral ceiling under the roof with skylights. The roof in photo 869 has cathedral ceilings at one end and that part of the roof isn't buckling.
#13
02-09-11, 02:59 PM
I don't do roofs, insulation or window cleaning. Too old and smart. But I have done my share over the years. This has got to be the crappiest roofing job I have seen in a long time. I'll ask again, are these architectural shingles or 3 tab? If 3 tab, what are the 1" or so tab pieces every so often. Doesn't seem to be a pattern. What grade shingle is it? Did you pay for a higher end shingle? I believe you got the bargain basement brand.
If this is normal for the second year, what will the third year look like, and will that be "normal", too? Do you have adequate soffit ventilation?
If this is normal for the second year, what will the third year look like, and will that be "normal", too? Do you have adequate soffit ventilation?
#14
02-09-11, 07:32 PM
Sorry to see you're having such a problem with your Roof. This is not normal for the second year or any year. In most states the contractor is liable for craftsmanship a minimum of two years. Most contractors have five or 10 year warranties on their work. Your first step would be to contact the roofing contractor which you have done. Your next step is to contact the BBB and file a complaint. Your next step would be to contact the department of labor and industry in your state to check the record of this contractor and file a complaint with them. The BBB does not inspect roofs or any work. Contact a local reputable roofing contractor and have him inspect this roof. Certainteed landmark shingles are a 30 year product and are not responsible for this problem. It appears to be either buckled sheathing or extremely wrinkled underlayment. I would recommend removing some shingles in this area to find out exactly what is going on. I hope this helps you.
#15
02-10-11, 01:51 PM
Nordberg,
We'll take your advice and file complaints with department of labor and the BBB. If my Roofer isn't adequately responsive, it looks like we'll need to get a different Roofer and file suit to recoup damages. Thanks for all your comments.
We'll take your advice and file complaints with department of labor and the BBB. If my Roofer isn't adequately responsive, it looks like we'll need to get a different Roofer and file suit to recoup damages. Thanks for all your comments.
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Spoke to my friend Scott- full time roofer 20 years...he said " good shingle, probably bad nail pattern....wind got underneath and broke the glue seal, after the seal breaks water gets under there and pop.....doesn't look like sheathing.....has to be ripped off.
