My new roof nightmare - What now? - Tons of pics inside
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My new roof nightmare - What now? - Tons of pics inside
So I had my roof replaced. Before they started I stressed that the flashing around the chimney and the one valley were my biggest concerns.
I was paying for new shingles, gutters, drip edge, felt, and ice guard on the valleys and eves.
After all this, they're supposed to come back again. Is there even anyway to make this all right without totally re-doing the whole job?
For some reason the previous home owners had this nasty bare aluminum flashing up under the shingles and crudely wrapped behind the gutter on the front of the house.
And again for some unknown reason the roofers left it behind instead of stripping it and installing new drip edge.
When the gutter crew came, they just bent it out of the way.


When I saw this, and the chimney (with original) flashing leaking I called them back.
Their solution was to pry back the shingles to remove the flashing and install the drip edge.
Then it looks like they had Ray Charles come to blob silicone caulk around the chimney and electric weatherhead.



Nevermind the drip edge that was cut too short in the very valley I was most concerned about. It's raining
right now. If you look close you can even see the the water dripping directly onto the exposed wood..

Then there are all the gaps on the corners with the drip edge...



Over or under the tar paper (not ice guard)? Does it even matter?

One torn shingle from prying them back..

Which brings me to the drip edge extending past the shingles anyway..


Not to mention the part of the roof they didn't even bother replacing the drip edge.. But they knew it was there because they took tin snips to it to remove the old gutter hangers

Here's the full album in case I missed something:
http://imgur.com/a/jyuE0#0
I was paying for new shingles, gutters, drip edge, felt, and ice guard on the valleys and eves.
After all this, they're supposed to come back again. Is there even anyway to make this all right without totally re-doing the whole job?
For some reason the previous home owners had this nasty bare aluminum flashing up under the shingles and crudely wrapped behind the gutter on the front of the house.
And again for some unknown reason the roofers left it behind instead of stripping it and installing new drip edge.
When the gutter crew came, they just bent it out of the way.


When I saw this, and the chimney (with original) flashing leaking I called them back.
Their solution was to pry back the shingles to remove the flashing and install the drip edge.
Then it looks like they had Ray Charles come to blob silicone caulk around the chimney and electric weatherhead.



Nevermind the drip edge that was cut too short in the very valley I was most concerned about. It's raining
right now. If you look close you can even see the the water dripping directly onto the exposed wood..

Then there are all the gaps on the corners with the drip edge...



Over or under the tar paper (not ice guard)? Does it even matter?

One torn shingle from prying them back..

Which brings me to the drip edge extending past the shingles anyway..


Not to mention the part of the roof they didn't even bother replacing the drip edge.. But they knew it was there because they took tin snips to it to remove the old gutter hangers

Here's the full album in case I missed something:
http://imgur.com/a/jyuE0#0
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Welcome to the forums! 4 words. These were not roofers. Pic 1 & 2, what the heck is that? Pic 3, 4 & 5, silicone will degrade with sunlight...bad move. They did not reflash the chimney, and should have used new boots on the vent pipes, no excuse. Pic 11, 12, 13 & 14, these are not new shingles, and they did reuse old drip edge.
Bottom line if you haven't made final payment on this, don't. If you didn't have a written contract, sham on you. A written contract would have protected you against the lack of materials, and the sloppy attempt at "waterproofing" with silicone.
Bottom line if you haven't made final payment on this, don't. If you didn't have a written contract, sham on you. A written contract would have protected you against the lack of materials, and the sloppy attempt at "waterproofing" with silicone.
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Well I did screw up with the contact. These guys did some other work for me with a contact but the house was a add on and they started and finished before I had a contact in my hands.
As of now I only owe them $500ish on this house roof.
I had a lengthy conversation with the owner of the company and sent him some of these photos. He assures me they're coming back to fix it.
But what should the correct fix be at this point? I can't see them just replacing a few shingles and drip edge to make it right by my standards. But I highly doubt they're going to completely redo it for the cost.
What would be reasonable of me to expect?
As of now I only owe them $500ish on this house roof.
I had a lengthy conversation with the owner of the company and sent him some of these photos. He assures me they're coming back to fix it.
But what should the correct fix be at this point? I can't see them just replacing a few shingles and drip edge to make it right by my standards. But I highly doubt they're going to completely redo it for the cost.
What would be reasonable of me to expect?
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Fix whatever they did or didn't do in the first two pictures with the drip edge. Replace all the drip edge, replace all boots, remove all flashing around the chimney and replace with new, replace the edge drip with new cut properly to meet at the proper angle, and fix ALL leaks you have, and repair the damage caused by the leaking. Hold on to your trump card, even if it is the 2 of spades. Don't let go of the money until it is fixed properly. Sorry for coming down so hard, but these guys were not professionals and it rubs me wrong.
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Thanks and no problem. I've been beating myself up pretty good too..
In my lengthy chat with the owner he said they felt the chimney flashing was in good shape and thought they could make it worse by tearing it off. (Old mortar seeping, etc)
They offered to flash over the old but I'm thinking this may just be more for aesthetics than functionality.
Then onto the drip edge. The shingles have been on a little over a week now. Some friends are telling me the glue strips have set by now and they'll ruin them by lifting them back up. Any truth there? The weather has been in the 60s here with only one or two days in the 70s with steady sun.
In my lengthy chat with the owner he said they felt the chimney flashing was in good shape and thought they could make it worse by tearing it off. (Old mortar seeping, etc)
They offered to flash over the old but I'm thinking this may just be more for aesthetics than functionality.
Then onto the drip edge. The shingles have been on a little over a week now. Some friends are telling me the glue strips have set by now and they'll ruin them by lifting them back up. Any truth there? The weather has been in the 60s here with only one or two days in the 70s with steady sun.
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Not one single thing in any of those pictures is right.
Drip edge, flashing, the way the shingles where started, not enough over hang, reusing old vent flashing, wrong boot used on the power mast, there's no reason to have all that tar all over the anything, chimney flashing look horrible!
Drip edge, flashing, the way the shingles where started, not enough over hang, reusing old vent flashing, wrong boot used on the power mast, there's no reason to have all that tar all over the anything, chimney flashing look horrible!