water misses the gutter
#1
04-24-16, 06:50 AM
water misses the gutter
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Water comes down the trough and misses the gutter.
How should this be fixed?
Thank you.
Water comes down the trough and misses the gutter.
How should this be fixed?
Thank you.
#2
04-24-16, 07:23 AM
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Looks like the gutter is too short and may be mounted too low. It should be lengthened so it runs an inch or so past the rake edge (or ideally, replaced with a continuous piece that is long enough). If water shoots over the top all along the edge, the gutter should be rehung so it is higher.
#4
04-24-16, 04:56 PM
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Something looks really wrong there.
Why does the roofing stopping short of the rake on the roof?
Also looks like it does not over hang enough at the bottom of the roof.
Makes no since that that roofing was installed at an angle like that, it's forcing all the water to flow toward the rake board instead of the gutter where it belongs.
Why does the roofing stopping short of the rake on the roof?
Also looks like it does not over hang enough at the bottom of the roof.
Makes no since that that roofing was installed at an angle like that, it's forcing all the water to flow toward the rake board instead of the gutter where it belongs.
#7
04-24-16, 08:03 PM
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Don't worry, Joe was probably not expecting to see a winged gable roof. The photo seems like an optical illusion if you don't know what it is at first glance.
#8
04-24-16, 08:13 PM
water misses the gutter
thank you
got it
I think CarbideTipped was on it. Leafguard (super company) has now agreed to return, remove the obstructing wood, and re-install longer gutters, no cost. Roofer has not responded to the query why drain water to where there is no gutter.
got it
I think CarbideTipped was on it. Leafguard (super company) has now agreed to return, remove the obstructing wood, and re-install longer gutters, no cost. Roofer has not responded to the query why drain water to where there is no gutter.
#9
04-24-16, 08:47 PM
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This is not a roofing issue. I wouldn't be inclined to call you back either, as its clearly a gutter issue. The design of a winged gable inherently means some water may run off the gable and not make it to the gutter. It looks like the fascia has a diverter to try and direct some of it downward (I'm sure it gets overwhelmed in a heavy downpour), but as was already pointed out, your gutter is too low and too short to collect any of it.
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04-25-16, 11:44 PM
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I thought that gutter looked familiar we have Leafguard too and when installed correctly they are really great but when they are not installed correctly they are terrible. We had a minor problem by our front porch as too muck water would get on the front porch they had to come back twice to fix it and now there are no problems. I agree about the gutters being hung too low ours are higher and that is the way yours should be too as these gutters work differently that other gutters. Shingle or in your case metal roofing needs to be cut higher for them to work properly too.
I also agree that the gutters were cut way too short, whoever did the work sure was sloppy I hope you can get another installer and not the same one you had before.
I also agree that the gutters were cut way too short, whoever did the work sure was sloppy I hope you can get another installer and not the same one you had before.
#12
04-26-16, 09:57 AM
water misses the gutter
Thank you
Don’t know what to say about the observation of several that the gutters are too low. (I am not gutter expert.)
Leafguard installs Leafguard. There is no other installer. Leafguard installed these. And they have agreed to return, cut the offending boards at the 3 corners in question, and install longer gutters at no cost.
We have several hundred feet of this gutter on two buildings and it all worked well during the last rain save for the three corners in question. We also have Leafguard installed by Leafguard on another house which also works well.
Maybe my pictures are bad. So I took pic(s) with a yardstick. See link below. The gutter is about 1" below the metal and the space is filled with flashing.
View image: DSC 3264
Don’t know what to say about the observation of several that the gutters are too low. (I am not gutter expert.)
Leafguard installs Leafguard. There is no other installer. Leafguard installed these. And they have agreed to return, cut the offending boards at the 3 corners in question, and install longer gutters at no cost.
We have several hundred feet of this gutter on two buildings and it all worked well during the last rain save for the three corners in question. We also have Leafguard installed by Leafguard on another house which also works well.
Maybe my pictures are bad. So I took pic(s) with a yardstick. See link below. The gutter is about 1" below the metal and the space is filled with flashing.
View image: DSC 3264
Last edited by engrav; 04-26-16 at 09:58 AM. Reason: little addition
#13
04-26-16, 01:36 PM
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In your very first picture, it looks like if you put a yardstick flat on the roof, that the gutter would be at least 2" below that plane. So fast running water would shoot right over the gutter and miss it. Therein lies the problem, as I see it.
In the first picture, it also looks like you may have 2 separate flashings. The top one looks like it is the color of your roof. The 2nd one below it looks to be white.. maybe it is the flashing from a previous roof. I think we are all saying that the gutter should be higherbecause it appears in the pictures anyway that it is way below the plane of the roof. If it's not, can't argue with that. But it seems like the flashing and the gutter should be high enough that the flashing would go under the top roof colored flashing, not the lower older white flashing.
In the first picture, it also looks like you may have 2 separate flashings. The top one looks like it is the color of your roof. The 2nd one below it looks to be white.. maybe it is the flashing from a previous roof. I think we are all saying that the gutter should be higherbecause it appears in the pictures anyway that it is way below the plane of the roof. If it's not, can't argue with that. But it seems like the flashing and the gutter should be high enough that the flashing would go under the top roof colored flashing, not the lower older white flashing.
#14
04-26-16, 03:21 PM
water misses the gutter
Thank you
Pics are supposed to clarify. Mine seem to confuse. Sorry about that. I tried again.
roof with labels
http://s20.postimg.org/kaft43sz1/DSC_3264_labels.jpg
one piece Leafguard on end from the web
http://s20.postimg.org/a1nbya4x9/Leafguard_on_end.jpg
Pics are supposed to clarify. Mine seem to confuse. Sorry about that. I tried again.
roof with labels
http://s20.postimg.org/kaft43sz1/DSC_3264_labels.jpg
one piece Leafguard on end from the web
http://s20.postimg.org/a1nbya4x9/Leafguard_on_end.jpg
#15
04-26-16, 03:54 PM
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When i said yardstick on the roof, I mean on TOP of the roof... i.e. "on the roof", not under it. The yardstick was supposed to mimic the path that water takes as it comes barrelling down the roof. But your latest picture more clearly shows the gap is 1", so it must be okay.... just doesn't look okay. Laying the yardstick on the roof and extending it out over the gutter, then taking a picture from the side would have given us a better perspective and made it crystal clear. Pictures just don't accurately give a 3d view, even your last one with the yardstick where it ought not be looks like water would shoot over it... but the illusion must be the angle of the leaf guard cap and the fact that we don't have good depth perception when looking at it straight on. Good job taking/editing the pics and trying to make it clear for us.
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04-28-16, 08:57 PM
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Englert the company that makes Leaf Guard I know has different contractors so they do have different installers and always have ever since I heard about them on a home improvement show. They are however all factory trained by Englert and can't install Leaf Guard gutters until they are certified to install their gutters. As for the space between the gutter and the shingle take a look at their website here https://www.leafguard.com/ . Don't look in the pictures section instead look on the main page and you will notice the gutters are higher than in your picture.
