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Which faux leather(s) is/are as durable as leather and won't fray?

Which faux leather(s) is/are as durable as leather and won't fray?


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Old 10-07-22, 02:08 PM
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Which faux leather(s) is/are as durable as leather and won't fray?

If you look at the points where faux leather is sewed on at the stitching points, example is cheap boxing gloves, you'll notice there's a plastic-y surface that peels off right away.
One company, Winning-Japan, uses a faux leather that they call on their Winning-USA site "artificial leather".
They are a premium brand charging several times more than the cheap brands even when the cheaper brands are using real leather.
I asked them about why they use artificial leather instead of real leather they told me that the artificial leather they use is more durable than real leather and that real leather scraps are part of the stuffing of their heavy bags.
When I asked what material their artificial leather was, the language barrier kicked in and couldn't get an answer. Maybe it's proprietary.
Does anyone know what kind of coriaceous material this could be where it's as supple as real leather but also as strong?
 
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Old 10-07-22, 04:16 PM
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Its vinyl!
 
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Old 10-07-22, 04:28 PM
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There's the vinyl's and there's also polyurethane. Check out Sailrite. Click on Shop, Leather, Faux Leather.
 
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Old 10-08-22, 09:08 PM
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the one picture is the high quality faux leather.
pliable like leather, strong as leather, and no surface veneer that frays and peels off.

the other picture is what I think of when I hear vinyl.
it's dry, cracks easily, and isn't durable

I'll check out that site and see if I can find a good faux leather


 
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Old 10-09-22, 08:27 AM
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I'm really not well versed into leather's and faux leather's, but I think regular vinyl and faux leather vinyl are different. In the end, it'll never hold up to real leather.

Here's an article I found, that may be worth reading.
What is faux leather?
 
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Old 10-10-22, 07:32 PM
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I read the article:

"PU synthetic leather is the closest imitation of genuine leather so far. It looks much more like a real leather product because if it bends, it wrinkles like genuine leather, which vinyl doesn’t."

"Due to their coatings, polyurethane leathers will ultimately crack and peel"


Based on that, neither vinyl nor polyurethane would suffice.

So the search continues for the "artificial leather" that Winning uses that's both as pliable and durable as real leather...
 
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while both pics look like vinyl to me but that certainly does not mean there all made the same, thickness and coatings could greatly impact how well they hold up over time and how well they can withstand, abrasion and other elements like uv and weather, point is your kind of trying to put them into the same category and you can't really do that due to the quality differences.
 
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I talked with Sailrite on the phone and the rep was very patient with me, the result, for now is I ordered a number of samples that we think are what I need, for me to touch and feel for myself. Once I find the right one I'll post what it is.
I noticed they had some leather sewing machines that I assume would work with the vinyl they're selling, do those work like regular sewing machines or is that a specialized skillset to learn how to use one of those?
https://www.sailrite.com/Sewing-Mach...Sewing-Machine
 
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Old 10-11-22, 05:17 PM
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It's similar to my industrial walking foot, with a few differences, but otherwise, it works like a regular sewing machine. You don't need any special skill to use it. The servo motor is great as it lets you go from slow to fast, like driving a car.
 
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Old 10-23-22, 11:14 AM
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I ordered several samples from Sailrite,
none of them feel like the artificial leather that the Winning company uses but I think they could possibly work,
I noticed that the back of all of the sailrite samples have a cloth backing whereas the artificial leather that Winning uses has a grainy suede like backing, you can tell by looking imside the loops on the top of the head gear.

basically the Winning artificial leather feels like a softer form of real leather





 
 

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