T&G Solid Wood Flooring on concrete??
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08-11-04, 08:15 AM
T&G Solid Wood Flooring on concrete??
I just bought a new home that has concrete on the main floor since there isn't a basement. I'm thinking of putting wood floors down. Since it is going over concrete, if I add a 3/4" subfloor to nail into, am I asking for problems with the doors opening? I'm going back this weekend to measure, but I want to know if it's a normal practice to do or do you just glue it down to the concrete? In the model of my home, they glued it down
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08-11-04, 11:46 AM
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Installing a solid over concrete is a very, very risky installation!
Are you positive, the wood glued down in the model home, is not an engineered cross-ply, made for gluing down to concrete. Concrete is prone to moisture vapor emissions. Engineered wood can handle moisture way better then a solid wood floor. The moisture emissions should be checked prior to installations, regardless!
New construction is notorious for high moisture vapor emissions, because the concrete pour is not that old, and had time to cure completely.
I personally refuse to install a solid wood floor over concrete! I have never lost money on a job I didn't do!!!!
90% of the failures I inspect, are solids installed over concrete. I just shake my head, and take pictures and moisture meter readings!
"We have done it for 30 years and never had a problem" That is because they only put a one year warranty on it. Then they blame moisture related claims on the homeowner if it happens within the warranty period. Which it clearly is not.
GOOD LUCK!!!!!
Are you positive, the wood glued down in the model home, is not an engineered cross-ply, made for gluing down to concrete. Concrete is prone to moisture vapor emissions. Engineered wood can handle moisture way better then a solid wood floor. The moisture emissions should be checked prior to installations, regardless!
New construction is notorious for high moisture vapor emissions, because the concrete pour is not that old, and had time to cure completely.
I personally refuse to install a solid wood floor over concrete! I have never lost money on a job I didn't do!!!!
90% of the failures I inspect, are solids installed over concrete. I just shake my head, and take pictures and moisture meter readings!
"We have done it for 30 years and never had a problem" That is because they only put a one year warranty on it. Then they blame moisture related claims on the homeowner if it happens within the warranty period. Which it clearly is not.
GOOD LUCK!!!!!
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08-11-04, 12:28 PM
THANKS!! GREATLY APPRECIATED!
I asked my sales person and they said they glued it down. They use a bit smaller solid wood T&G floor and glue it down.
I was thinking about doing the laminated flooring i.e. Pergo, but I really don't like the look. It may be my best bet. I have REALLY SEVERE allergies and I was instructed that it would be best to take my carpeting out. IN MY BRAND NEW HOUSE!
Are any of the companies, i.e. Pergo, etc that are better than the other? Should I go with a locking floor or a glue together floor?
I asked my sales person and they said they glued it down. They use a bit smaller solid wood T&G floor and glue it down.
I was thinking about doing the laminated flooring i.e. Pergo, but I really don't like the look. It may be my best bet. I have REALLY SEVERE allergies and I was instructed that it would be best to take my carpeting out. IN MY BRAND NEW HOUSE!
Are any of the companies, i.e. Pergo, etc that are better than the other? Should I go with a locking floor or a glue together floor?
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08-11-04, 03:04 PM
www.Kahrs.com
REAL wood, thick top layer, and slice cut, not lathed.
float over moisture barrier and add value to the home!
REAL wood, thick top layer, and slice cut, not lathed.
float over moisture barrier and add value to the home!
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08-14-04, 04:03 AM
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You need to look at an engineered cross-ply hardwood!
The thin solids, that they say can be glued down to concrete, are failing because precautions and eliminating moisture vapor emissions are not being done. An engineered is more dimensionally stable then a solid, and can tolerate more MVE, then any solid hardwood.
The wider the board the more pronounced the cupping WILL be, with a solid hardwood, when moisture is beneath. Concrete is moisture beneath!
The thin solids, that they say can be glued down to concrete, are failing because precautions and eliminating moisture vapor emissions are not being done. An engineered is more dimensionally stable then a solid, and can tolerate more MVE, then any solid hardwood.
The wider the board the more pronounced the cupping WILL be, with a solid hardwood, when moisture is beneath. Concrete is moisture beneath!
