HL engineering floor - glue down to stop creaking?

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Old 09-08-11, 12:49 PM
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HL engineering floor - glue down to stop creaking?

We purchased HL hand scraped engineered hardwood.

We floated it and it creaks virtually everywhere. We used a very good underlayment(I forgot the brand, but it's $36/100ft.) We're replacing Kars OakNashville that was on the floor for 10 years(we had a break in the Fridge ice-maker line and it got ruined). The Kars did not creak. All of that mess from the fridge break was cleaned up long ago by professionals (so that's not why it creaks).

We called HomeDepot and got a rep from HL come look at it. They decided it was defective and took the remaining boxes we had not used and refunded me. Now I have the installed wood on the floor which creaks too much.

We like the looks of the floor and have been thinking about removing the floating floor and gluing it back down. We have a concrete floor.

1. Do you think this would help with the creaking?
2. Are there any problems with gluing HL engineered flooring?

I suspect it will help with the creaking but I'd like to get advice an expert.

Thanks in advance
 
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If the flooring was defective, why did they not pay you for all of it?

Now that you don't have any extra flooring, you're stuck if you keep this and need a plank or three down the road as it's typically next to impossible to obtain the same flooring again down the road.
 
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they did pay me for all of the wood. I'm supposed to do "field destroy" for what was already laid down. I like the look of it and could save some beans by switching to gluing it down.

Would this help stop the creaking? If it will I can re-purchase some more of the same flooring and finish the job with glue.
 
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You're not out any $ if you do, I'd see what happens if you glue the planks together (in other words, I'd glue the floor to itself but not the concrete)
 
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Old 09-09-11, 01:25 PM
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Gluing it down won't keep it from creaking. How level (I mean LEVEL) was your floor that you laid it on? If it is creaking in just certain spots, sprinkle some talcum powder in those areas, broom it in the cracks then vacuum it up after a day of walking on it. Was the underlayment left over from the original install? Was is recommended by HL?
 
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well, the areas where we previously had wood floors didn't creak (Kars brand). So I would presume that the floor is level enough. A few areas where we used to have carpet could be a bit unlevel; but I doubt the entire floor. We tried the powder thing; that didn't help. We even tried a little oil between a few pieces. The underlayment is Tekno Sound Supreme Underlayment 3mm (100 sq ft) Hardwood Bargains :: Engineered Hardwood Flooring :: underlayment, moisture barrier

Why do you say gluing it down won't keep it from creaking? My thoughts are it would make it so the wood wouldn't move thus not allowing it to creak (at least as much)
 
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Gluing the wood to the vapor barrier won't accomplish anything. Gluing the edges may help, but they will break if there is enough flexion. How did you plan on gluing this down?
 
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I'm not going to glue it to the vapor barrier. we're considering gluing it to the concrete with the right type of glue.

If it works I'll just toss out the vapor barrier and possible give away or sell the remaining rolls I have.
 
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Tossing the vapor barrier will guarantee it will rot from the moisture coming up from underneath
 
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Old 09-13-11, 11:31 AM
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but the glue has a vapor barrier; like this Bruce Hardwood Adhesive

Shop Bruce Gallon Hardwood Adhesive at Lowes.com

* Covers more area than similar adhesives
* Moisture-resistant adhesive, when cured saves the installer time by allowing for wet laying the wood flooring without the traditional risks of solvent- and water-based adhesives
* Good early strength buildup for immediate grab enables adherence to the flooring more quickly improving installation and bond performance
* Excellent rebond characteristics allow for repositioning and last minute adjustments
 
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Maybe it's just me but I don't see anywhere where this says "Can be used in place of a vapor barrier." It states that it is moisture-resistant but that is not a vapor barrier.
 
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Well, isn't there a glue that you use when you glue the floors to concrete? I believe my brother used some sort of urethane glue. He told me it was a moisture barrier.

Anyway, I would like to glue it down in the same manner other hardwood floors are glued down.

Do you think that would help with the creaking noises?

Thank you, Mike
 
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