Laminate/Pergo has come up in kitchen... can I lay vinyl tiles on top?

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Old 11-27-13, 09:16 AM
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Question Laminate/Pergo has come up in kitchen... can I lay vinyl tiles on top?

Laminate/Pergo has come up in kitchen.
In few areas, it grabs slippers and trip danger.
Can I somehow glue those parts down and lay vinyl tiles on top or need to completely remove the pergo first?
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It all needs to go.
It most likely failed because of moisture.
What's it layed over?
Why tiles and not sheet linoleum?
 
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Old 11-27-13, 10:20 AM
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I can use sheet.
Tiles came in mind due to ease of installation (no glue needed, easy to carry and cut etc).

I'll have to do the bathroom first.
Kitchen is usable but definitely needs replacement.
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Is that a slab under that floor?
If your talking about peel and stick tiles, I beg you to not ever consider them!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old 11-27-13, 12:54 PM
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There is basement below so subfloor is osb wood I think.
So peel-n-stick is a no no but vinyl/linoleum sheet is okay?
 
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Personally, I like ceramic tile in a kitchen but that takes a whole 'nother conversation.

Peel and stick vinyl tiles are notorious for not sticking for long, shrinking, cracking, curling up and so on. Sheet vinyl will cost more but do a much better job for you.
 
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For laminate to fail like that my #1 guess would be rising moisture.
No vapor barrier under the laminate, no vapor barrier on the ground in the crawl space can be the cause.
Want the wood look, after addressing a few issues and with the proper underlayment you could use tile that looks like wood, or engineered wood flooring.
 
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Thanks for comments.

If I do it diy, it'll be either vinyl sheet or tile.
If I hire a pro, hardwood is also an option but cost goes little above the ceiling.

This house has partial crawl space and it has vapor barrier (tarp/plastic type) and then carpet on top.
Basement area has concrete and unfinished.
I think the lamintate is damaged close to refrigerator due to condensation but other areas (sink, island, washing machine) are also damaged so no idea.
The same laminate is still good in hallway and entrance areas.
 
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Sink and washing machine are near sources of water - that would be my first suspect. The island may prove to have the same cause, especially if you have a sink in it.

Laminate and moisture just do not mix well.
 
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Can I somehow glue those parts down and lay vinyl tiles on top or need to completely remove the pergo first?
As others have eluded to, it is a moisture problem and the floor needs to come up. Also assume that there is some subfloor damage as well. Once the floor is up, you have multiple types of flooring you can put down, but it depends on your budget.
 
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Carpet over the vapor barrier !!!!!!!!!! Tell me it isn't so. May as well have used sponges and some mold cultures.
Engineered floor is not that much more then a quality laminate and can be laid and walked on the same day unlike tile. Does not require tile board, grout, thin set, sealer, sanding finishing.
 
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Old 11-29-13, 09:35 AM
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I've seen carpet over vapor barrier in crawl spaces in many houses.

Island has no sink.

Engineered wood is an option.
I'm buying a compressor, nail/stapler gun and a jigsaw.
Is that enough for installing wood floor?
 
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