Are these flying termites or ants?


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Old 07-13-22, 03:21 PM
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Are these flying termites or ants?

Some sources I look at online convince these are termites and others convince me they are ants.
I understand the wings and antannae are different, but each photo looks different .
I already know I have termites, I'm dealing with that.
also, these guys only show up when I cone hone at aboyt 2am and turn the light on in the bedroom. They don't show up in any other room or at any other time.
they fly to the light like a moth then fall to the floor.
A fly paper strip catches a lot of them.
is there a way to tell where they are coming from, how they are getting into the room? I have looked but I dont see them coming in.
I want to seal the entrance or spray the nest.







 
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Ants.
 
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Great.
now I'm being attacked by termites AND ants .
what next? Locust? Fire and brimstone?
does this mean they have a nest in the house?
is there anything I can do to get rid of them, beside spraying or fly papering, bug zapping, etc. the ones I see?
 
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Flying ants, though their wings seem a bit long, but the body shape, 3 distinct segments, tells me they are ants.
Flying/winged ants, just like winged termites, are the reproductives of the colony. There is an ant colony, probably inside the structure since that's where you're seeing the flying ants.
How are you treating for the termites? If using a fipronil based termiticide, that will work very well on ants as well. Treat the exterior perimeters, high and low, with a fipronil (active ingredient) based insecticide. Especially focus on the exterior walls of the room where you see the ants. Don't use any other sprays as most are repellent and fipronil based sprays are non-repellent. We want the ants to think that nothing has changed. They need to move in and out of the fipronil. The larger species of ants will forage to the exterior even if/when living interior. The foragers will get the fipronil on them and transfer it, slowly, to the colony inside. It works slowly, can take a couple weeks.

Is the bedroom on the first floor? If so, what is underneath: slab, basement, crawl, etc?

Some examples of fipronil based sprays are: Termidor, Taurus SC, Fuse, and there are others.
 
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Old 07-14-22, 11:22 AM
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I live in CT
the termite protective state.
anything that might hurt a termite is banned.
bora care us legal so I will be spraying that on the inside.
a ground barrier by Bonide is legal, presumably because they haven't heard of it yet . I am using that around the foundation.
underneath the house is kind of a digout basement. I think it is best to consider it a crawl space with a stone foundation.
floor is poured concrete.
had very few of the ants last night . Maybe the fly paper got most of them .
they seem to become active with noise. Then they are attracted to the light.
Last night I walked into the room with a strong flashlight, hoping they would be attracted to the light and I could see were they are coming from. Didnt work. But as I moved to different spots they started to show up, but only 5 of them. So it seems my walking around woke them up, not the light.
i guess I will deal with the ants as I see them.

 
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If/when the flying ants stop, the main colony is still in the same place. Reproductive swarming is a seasonal event, usually once a year. You aren't kidding about CT being restrictive. Even the lower toxicity insecticides that we can buy over the counter are banned. If the ant colony is in the bora-care treated wood, you should get some results or impact from that.

Consider using the two ant baits below. One is protein (Advance) the other is sugar based. Don't spray on or near the baits. If you can get in the crawl space, I'd put baits on top of the foundation wall here and there, especially under where you see the flying ants. If you can't get under, I'd put a piece of plastic or wax paper down on floor inside the access for moisture resistance and place baits on that. If there are gaps in the flooring, baseboard, pipe chases, etc in living areas, I'd bait into those areas.

Read the directions for the baits, as baiting isn't always as simple as just scattering it. Sometimes there are specific strategies as to locations, amount, re-treatment times, weather, etc. If you're using Bora-care, then you're using a specialty insecticide and are aware of details and special instructions, methods, etc. Keep us posted as to progress.


https://www.domyown.com/advance-carp...ait-p-173.html

https://www.domyown.com/maxforce-fleet-p-18117.html
 
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Thanks for the ant bait info, i will try them.
i have access to most areas under the house . I can stand up in most areas. A couple I can easily crawl in. Only one room has crawl space access that is too small for me to try it. But that is a porch. I plan on pulling up the floor boards and boracare the bottom of the boards, whether I find termites or not. Most of the house was built in 1930 and god only knows what they treated the lumber with back then to fight termites, but it seems to work. the termites avoid the old lumber.
I'm slowly buying everything I need for the boracare. Suit, respirator, etc. Hope to start soon.
 
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Sounds like a plan. Maybe you know this already, but Bora-Care needs to be stirred, not shaken, in order to make the solution. Warm water helps. I always used a separate bucket for the pouring/stirring before pouring into the sprayer.

The old lumber may or may not have been treated. It may be a hardwood, which is less appealing to termites than is soft wood. If hardwood has been weakened by water damage, then it will be more appealing.
 
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I had a nest of them in my basement above the insulation under my concrete porch. I could easily hear them moving around. Terro ant killer sprayed through a screwdriver hole wiped them out in a few minutes.
https://www.homedepot.com/s/terro?NCNI-5
 
 

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