Trane XL16i, Variable Speed AH, and TCont803
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Trane XL16i, Variable Speed AH, and TCont803
Hello,
I recently had a new Trane XL16i (4ttx6048c), a Trane Variable Speed Air Handler (4tee3f49c), with 10kw electric heat, and a Trane Tcont803 thermostat installed in my house in South Florida. I am trying to confirm the wiring and thermostat settings to ensure that it is running as designed and specified.
Question 1:
The XL16i is a 2 Stage condenser unit with (1) two-step scroll compressor?
Question 2:
Based on the Tcont803 installers manual (see link below) the unit should be wired according to Fig. 8. Typical hookup of two-stage indoor and
two-step scroll cooling unit in a single transformer
system (2H/2C or 2H/1C or 1H/2C). Am I correct in this assumption?
Removed Link. Installer Guide should have been left with your system Manuals.
http://www.airconditioner-parts.com/...tallation .pdf
Wired as shown below:
T - AH - CU
Y2 - BK - Y2
W2 - W2
S1
S2
RC
R - R
W1
Y - Y - Y1
G - G
B
RC jumper to R on thermostat (factory)
R jumper to BK on air handler removed
R jumper to O on air handler
3. Which setting should be chosen in the System Type Selection in the Installer Setup Menu of the Tcont803 thermostat?
Thank you for your help. I just want the system to work as advertised considering the amount of money I paid for it.
I recently had a new Trane XL16i (4ttx6048c), a Trane Variable Speed Air Handler (4tee3f49c), with 10kw electric heat, and a Trane Tcont803 thermostat installed in my house in South Florida. I am trying to confirm the wiring and thermostat settings to ensure that it is running as designed and specified.
Question 1:
The XL16i is a 2 Stage condenser unit with (1) two-step scroll compressor?
Question 2:
Based on the Tcont803 installers manual (see link below) the unit should be wired according to Fig. 8. Typical hookup of two-stage indoor and
two-step scroll cooling unit in a single transformer
system (2H/2C or 2H/1C or 1H/2C). Am I correct in this assumption?
Removed Link. Installer Guide should have been left with your system Manuals.
http://www.airconditioner-parts.com/...tallation .pdf
Wired as shown below:
T - AH - CU
Y2 - BK - Y2
W2 - W2
S1
S2
RC
R - R
W1
Y - Y - Y1
G - G
B
RC jumper to R on thermostat (factory)
R jumper to BK on air handler removed
R jumper to O on air handler
3. Which setting should be chosen in the System Type Selection in the Installer Setup Menu of the Tcont803 thermostat?
Thank you for your help. I just want the system to work as advertised considering the amount of money I paid for it.
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Question 2:
Based on the Tcont803 installers manual (see link below) the unit should be wired according to Fig. 8. Typical hookup of two-stage indoor and two-step scroll cooling unit in a single transformer system (2H/2C or 2H/1C or 1H/2C). Am I correct in this assumption?
Based on the Tcont803 installers manual (see link below) the unit should be wired according to Fig. 8. Typical hookup of two-stage indoor and two-step scroll cooling unit in a single transformer system (2H/2C or 2H/1C or 1H/2C). Am I correct in this assumption?
Wired as shown below:
W1 from t-stat goes to W1 on the air handler.
Do you have an extra wire in the wall for B?
Is B/C hooked up to C at the unit outside?
3. Which setting should be chosen in the Installer Setup Menu of the Tcont803 thermostat?
180-0
220-2
230-3
240-3
280-1 (makes a good night light if B is hooked up.)
If you have questions on the other settings, let me know.
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Jay, thanks for the quick response.
I only have 5 wires from the AH to the Thermostat which are all occupied. What does W1 to W1 do? Should I run this wire?
Also there are only 2 wires coming from the outside unit. I opened it and only saw two.
Why does Trane 0170-10 say "1 heat/2 cool oil furnace or 0H/2C"? The "oil furnace" makes it confusing
.
I only have 5 wires from the AH to the Thermostat which are all occupied. What does W1 to W1 do? Should I run this wire?
Also there are only 2 wires coming from the outside unit. I opened it and only saw two.
Why does Trane 0170-10 say "1 heat/2 cool oil furnace or 0H/2C"? The "oil furnace" makes it confusing

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No problem. Glad to help.
Ok, we won't be able to hook up B (Common wire) for our back light #280 setting, so leave that at 0. I suggest to put in fresh battery once a year in the t-stat.
W1 is your heat (1st stage) and you don't have two stage (W2), so W2 needs to be moved over to W1 at both t-stat and air handler. Other wise if that was left on W2, you would not have heat if the t-stat was set up 1Heat.
What!? You need 3 wires.. Y1 to Y, Y2 to BK, and B to B/C
Not sure? I'm sure it was a misprint.
Do you want me to review the dip switch settings on the air handler for you?
I only have 5 wires from the AH to the Thermostat which are all occupied.
What does W1 to W1 do? Should I run this wire?
Also there are only 2 wires coming from the outside unit. I opened it and only saw two.
Why does Trane 0170-10 say "1 heat/2 cool oil furnace or 0H/2C"? The "oil furnace" makes it confusing
.

Do you want me to review the dip switch settings on the air handler for you?
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My mistake on the original post, W1 from the Tstat goes to W1 on the AH and has a jumper to W2 on the AH.
That is correct, as it is now the T - AH - CU is as follows: Y1 - Y - Yellow/Black , and Y2 - BK - Yellow/Red. There is no third wire. I opened the condenser unit outside, and there is no wire (blue or any other color) that is not terminated, loose, or clipped. There is a blue/black wire the same gauge as the other communication wires that goes from a relay timer, through what looks like a large resistor, then into the contactor. Thoughts?
My dip switches are set as follows:
1 - ON
2- OFF
(it is a 4 ton unit)
3- OFF
4- OFF
(normal)
5- ON
6 - ON
(enhanced)
7 - ON
8 - OFF
(med-high)
Thanks Again!
That is correct, as it is now the T - AH - CU is as follows: Y1 - Y - Yellow/Black , and Y2 - BK - Yellow/Red. There is no third wire. I opened the condenser unit outside, and there is no wire (blue or any other color) that is not terminated, loose, or clipped. There is a blue/black wire the same gauge as the other communication wires that goes from a relay timer, through what looks like a large resistor, then into the contactor. Thoughts?
My dip switches are set as follows:
1 - ON
2- OFF
(it is a 4 ton unit)
3- OFF
4- OFF
(normal)
5- ON
6 - ON
(enhanced)
7 - ON
8 - OFF
(med-high)
Thanks Again!
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That is correct, as it is now the T - AH - CU is as follows: Y1 - Y - Yellow/Black , and Y2 - BK - Yellow/Red. There is no third wire. I opened the condenser unit outside, and there is no wire (blue or any other color) that is not terminated, loose, or clipped. There is a blue/black wire the same gauge as the other communication wires that goes from a relay timer, through what looks like a large resistor, then into the contactor.
My dip switches are set as follows:
7 - ON
8 - OFF
(med-high)
7 - ON
8 - OFF
(med-high)
Change
8 - ON
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Its not a ComfortLink II, i just verified the model number. I just checked again, in daylight. It does indeed have a blue wire. The installer took it to ground on the outside unit. What does the blue wire do? Should I have the installer come back and correctly wire it?
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The "Common" wire can be grounded.
Guessing they were not able to run a new wire outside, so that's why they did it.. I've done it once before in the past where fishing a new wire was going to be very hard.
Guessing they were not able to run a new wire outside, so that's why they did it.. I've done it once before in the past where fishing a new wire was going to be very hard.
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So this grounded blue wire will have no effect on the staging/efficiency/operation of the unit? I paid a good amount of money for the system, and I know the installer would come back out if I wasn't satisfied, so if you think I should have them connect it to the AH, I will.
Also, in the installers test mode when I cycle stage 1 and stage 2 of the compressor should there be a clear audible change?
Thanks
Also, in the installers test mode when I cycle stage 1 and stage 2 of the compressor should there be a clear audible change?
Thanks
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Also, in the installers test mode when I cycle stage 1 and stage 2 of the compressor should there be a clear audible change?
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I found the wiring schematic for both the CU and AH and indeed it is grounded down the line at the AH. Just one more thing for my own sanity...If i meter the blue wire that is currently grounded (obviously disconnected from the ground), it would read +24 volts coming out?
Again Jay, thanks so much for your help.
Again Jay, thanks so much for your help.