Kohler or American Standard

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Old 09-10-05, 04:16 PM
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Kohler or American Standard

I need to replace 2 toilets in my house. I'm looking at a Kohler Wellworth or Cimarron. Also looking at an American Standard Champion or Cadet series. Any experiences with any of these? I am looking for a good flushing and quiet toilet. The Sterlings we have now splash too much water out of the bowl when flushed. Thanks.
 
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Old 09-10-05, 05:05 PM
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I just installed an American Standard in my house. I was happy it came with the Fluidmaster flush valve.
Check out the specs on what you are looking at. I was amazed that you have to check to see what size the discharge hole is. I like the fact that even the Big Box stores have the specs for each toilet they sell, posted.
Good luck.
 
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Old 09-11-05, 02:24 PM
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Is the Cimarron a good, quiet flusher? I'm bouncing between the Cimarron and Highline. I don't know if the "Class Five" flush of the Cimarron is really better than a Wellworth series toilet.
 
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Old 09-11-05, 04:40 PM
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Wellworth has possibly the worst reputation of any toilet on the market. Cadet is somewhat better. Bazillions of both are sold due to mass marketing.
The CImarron and Champion have the newer enlarged flush valve.

For top performance, check Toto. Or in any brand look at their pressure-assisted versions. No matter how you slice it, a marginal performer can be had for $50 and up. A top flusher will be $200 and up.
 
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Old 09-12-05, 01:39 PM
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OMG I'm so glad I read this post. I have the Wellworth sitting in my garage right now. I am definitely returning it. Thanks so much.
 
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I ended up buying 2 Toto Drake toilets. Hopefully they will be installed this weekend.
 
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Old 09-15-05, 02:57 PM
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Montyface, I hope you are installing these toilets yourself. If not, let us know what it cost you. It is a simple thing to do and I realize people are afraid of plumbing , but this is such a simple job that there is no reason to not DIY. Good luck.
 
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Normally I would install them, but we have a new house and the builder is providing the labor. When the house was built, they used Sterling toilets that have been a problem since day one. Once they are installed, I'll try and post back with the results.
 
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Toto is a high end toilet and from what I hear, are worth it. Good luck with your new home.
 
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Old 10-02-05, 05:15 PM
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They were installed yesterday. A good choice. Good flush and quiet too. I actually posted yesterday... The kid the builder sent out to install the toilets broke the plastic closet flange ear by the Johnny bolt. They installed a super flange over it and reinstalled the toilet. I'm not too happy about the super flange. I should have installed it myself. He wasn't alternating from left to right and must have cocked the bowl..........
 
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Old 11-01-05, 10:02 AM
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We installed two Kohler Cimmarons and they work well. Look good, fill up fast and flush well.
 
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