toilet tank built inside wall
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Hi! Anybody out there know how to fix running toilet when tank is built into wall? (behind tiles) Parts all look different, and can't really see into it so well. Called plumber and he ran the other way.
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My wife just informed me this thing is called a "hanging toilet", and supposed to be fancy. Also easier to wash floor since toilet bowl is attached to wall instead of floor. So standard to have hidden tank in wall, in a shelflike tiled protrubance. But as I wrote, all my previous toilet-fixing experience isn't helping me as different parts etc...
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Thats why I brought it up. The retro style tanks are pretty common..esp in old houses..but tank inside or even inset into the wall..????
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So standard to have hidden tank in wall, in a shelflike tiled protrubance.
still sounds like a really odd installation though. Maybe it;s a high tank but why one would build a wall around the tank is beyond me.
hey guys, check this out:
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I have never seen this, and I've been rode hard and put up wet for many years. Nap, I want the repair job on this toilet, please. Looks like at least 20 hours worth, with the tile and all.
Basically on any of them you have to ask yourself one question.....do you feel lucky? No way would I put something subject to leaks behind a wall.
Thanks guys for the education.
Larry
Basically on any of them you have to ask yourself one question.....do you feel lucky? No way would I put something subject to leaks behind a wall.
Thanks guys for the education.
Larry
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Thanks for your posts! Sorry for the confusion I'm causing! I'm currently located in Israel so they have a lot of European stuff maybe not seen much back home in USA...
Basically, they build a fake wall that sticks out. It's about 3 ft tall or so. Inside that protrubance is the tank. You flush by pressing on big buttons on that tiled fake wall. If u slide the cover of the buttons off, you see a rectangular opening in the tiled protrubance. If u know what u r doing, can fix it, but although using float system, the parts are different. At least I think so. Very hard to see into it because looking from the side and reaching down into it...still need pic? Anybody who ever dealt with this type of toilet will know what I mean...
Brand-I noticed have two identical looking. One is +GF+ and other is Schwab, both made in Germany. The one trying to fix is +GF+ DIN 19542 Mod 182.0400/Z
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Thanks for your posts! Sorry for the confusion I'm causing! I'm currently located in Israel so they have a lot of European stuff maybe not seen much back home in USA...
Basically, they build a fake wall that sticks out. It's about 3 ft tall or so. Inside that protrubance is the tank. You flush by pressing on big buttons on that tiled fake wall. If u slide the cover of the buttons off, you see a rectangular opening in the tiled protrubance. If u know what u r doing, can fix it, but although using float system, the parts are different. At least I think so. Very hard to see into it because looking from the side and reaching down into it...still need pic? Anybody who ever dealt with this type of toilet will know what I mean...
Brand-I noticed have two identical looking. One is +GF+ and other is Schwab, both made in Germany. The one trying to fix is +GF+ DIN 19542 Mod 182.0400/Z
thanks
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For Larry Chandler from Georgia!
Hi, U r welcome to fly from Georgia to Israel to fix it, but the airfare is on u!
And dont forget whole pooint here is to fix myself!
Hi, U r welcome to fly from Georgia to Israel to fix it, but the airfare is on u!
And dont forget whole pooint here is to fix myself!
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Definitely a DIY project promoter. I was just commenting on the picture Nap provided with the nice tile and all. I have never worked on them, so I won't be of any help. It seems to be a decoratively nice way to install them, but from a mechanical standpoint, I would be afraid to tackle one. Good luck, and maybe some of the other guys have had experience with them.
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I can't seem to find anything on the internet about the +GF+ or Schwab toilets.
Have you looked around to see what you could find? If you do find anything, throw a link up here and maybe somebody can run with that.
sorry, hopefully you don't have to use it real badly right now.
Have you looked around to see what you could find? If you do find anything, throw a link up here and maybe somebody can run with that.
sorry, hopefully you don't have to use it real badly right now.
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methefixer: I did find your toilet on the net, but I can"t find any break-down of the operating mechanism. I never seen that type of toilet in the U.S. You probably will be better off finding a forum in your area, someone had to put them in originally, sorry.
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That wall is probably not wood, especially in Israel.
It would be very costly to attack it from the wall side since you could be trying to do it on tile surface on a ceramic or concrete block wall (3" OR 4" thick. - Very important visually costly to rebuild, especially if you have to re-hang the toilet.
If the built up wall is forming a shelf it would be better the enter through the top if is just needs a new valve mechanism. Also, much cheaper and easier to patch.
The tip off was the clean-up, because wood walls in a "wet" room (bath, shower, kitchen) are rare and a sign of cheap construction. I have been in 37 countries and have a hobby of collectiong 3 pictures of toilets in every place I was in. I might be described as a crapologist named after Sir Thomas Crapper that invented the modern flush toilet. - When you don't speak the language, what else is there to do?
Dick
It would be very costly to attack it from the wall side since you could be trying to do it on tile surface on a ceramic or concrete block wall (3" OR 4" thick. - Very important visually costly to rebuild, especially if you have to re-hang the toilet.
If the built up wall is forming a shelf it would be better the enter through the top if is just needs a new valve mechanism. Also, much cheaper and easier to patch.
The tip off was the clean-up, because wood walls in a "wet" room (bath, shower, kitchen) are rare and a sign of cheap construction. I have been in 37 countries and have a hobby of collectiong 3 pictures of toilets in every place I was in. I might be described as a crapologist named after Sir Thomas Crapper that invented the modern flush toilet. - When you don't speak the language, what else is there to do?
Dick
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The invention itself is credited Sir John Harrington in the 16th century and the first patent for a flushing toilet was actually awarded to Alexander Cummings in 1775, 60 years before Crapper was born.
As well, Crapper was never knighted so he is not deserving of the title of Sir.
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Nap -
I will correct my friends in the U.K., but he is thought of as being the father of the modern toilet.
The word "invented" was too strong, but he is known for his developments that made it practical and common. - Maybe I watch too much of the History channel and paid more attention to the development instead of the early works/patents that never made is common and usable.
I stand corrected.
Anyway, I hope the top access is possible for the original poster is his situation to find out if it just the works inside. If not the shut-off access is another problem. Some condos and apartments may not have individual shut-offs for every unit. The parts are probably available somewhere, but the manufacturer/marketer name may have changed. - I assume he got a good enough access to source the parts numbers.
Dick
I will correct my friends in the U.K., but he is thought of as being the father of the modern toilet.
The word "invented" was too strong, but he is known for his developments that made it practical and common. - Maybe I watch too much of the History channel and paid more attention to the development instead of the early works/patents that never made is common and usable.
I stand corrected.
Anyway, I hope the top access is possible for the original poster is his situation to find out if it just the works inside. If not the shut-off access is another problem. Some condos and apartments may not have individual shut-offs for every unit. The parts are probably available somewhere, but the manufacturer/marketer name may have changed. - I assume he got a good enough access to source the parts numbers.
Dick
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Nap -
I will correct my friends in the U.K., but he is thought of as being the father of the modern toilet.
The word "invented" was too strong, but he is known for his developments that made it practical and common. - Maybe I watch too much of the History channel and paid more attention to the development instead of the early works/patents that never made is common and usable.
I stand corrected.
Anyway, I hope the top access is possible for the original poster is his situation to find out if it just the works inside. If not the shut-off access is another problem. Some condos and apartments may not have individual shut-offs for every unit. The parts are probably available somewhere, but the manufacturer/marketer name may have changed. - I assume he got a good enough access to source the parts numbers.
Dick
I will correct my friends in the U.K., but he is thought of as being the father of the modern toilet.
The word "invented" was too strong, but he is known for his developments that made it practical and common. - Maybe I watch too much of the History channel and paid more attention to the development instead of the early works/patents that never made is common and usable.
I stand corrected.
Anyway, I hope the top access is possible for the original poster is his situation to find out if it just the works inside. If not the shut-off access is another problem. Some condos and apartments may not have individual shut-offs for every unit. The parts are probably available somewhere, but the manufacturer/marketer name may have changed. - I assume he got a good enough access to source the parts numbers.
Dick
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Hi again, Shacko! Hope u r well! Don't drink as much beer as your Emoticon!
Anyway, coudn't find Schwab toilets online-could u please send me the link?
Right now simply studying working toilet to understand how it works and then will hopefully tackle broken one. But diagram would sure help, since this ridiculous design doesnt allow u to see into it much, as I wrote b4...
thanx!
Anyway, coudn't find Schwab toilets online-could u please send me the link?
Right now simply studying working toilet to understand how it works and then will hopefully tackle broken one. But diagram would sure help, since this ridiculous design doesnt allow u to see into it much, as I wrote b4...
thanx!
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Do you have a small video camera for your computer? That and a bright light may let you see. Just put it in the small hole careful to keep it dry. and use a bright flashlight.
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Hi again, Shacko! Hope u r well! Don't drink as much beer as your Emoticon!
Anyway, coudn't find Schwab toilets online-could u please send me the link?
Right now simply studying working toilet to understand how it works and then will hopefully tackle broken one. But diagram would sure help, since this ridiculous design doesnt allow u to see into it much, as I wrote b4...
thanx!
Anyway, coudn't find Schwab toilets online-could u please send me the link?
Right now simply studying working toilet to understand how it works and then will hopefully tackle broken one. But diagram would sure help, since this ridiculous design doesnt allow u to see into it much, as I wrote b4...
thanx!