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Old 11-23-12, 04:08 PM
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Moen base leak

I have a moen single handle faucet. 2 months ago the spout was leaking and I replaced the cartridge and problem solved. 2 months later the base of the single handle lever started leaking at the base. I bought the same cartridge and installed it. Moen 1225 One-Handle Replacement Cartridge - Amazon.com

The base is still leaking. The water is coming out of the seam of where the cartridge goes into the hole. Whether the the lever is on or off the water leaks out of the stem. Can't find the is here?
 
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Old 11-23-12, 05:08 PM
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This is the one I have. Even though the water is clearly coming up out of the stem on the lever you think the O ring on the spout could be causing this leak out the stem?

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Old 11-23-12, 05:11 PM
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Probably leaking from the spout O rings. You need to remove the spout to access them. If you replaced the cart I would think thats not where the leak is. May just look like it.
 
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Old 11-23-12, 05:34 PM
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I pulled off the spout and the 1 black O ring I saw appeared to be in good shape.
 
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Old 11-23-12, 05:47 PM
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Should be two O rings I believe......
 
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Old 11-23-12, 06:09 PM
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Yea one is rubber. The other is just a plastic ring with a slit through it which I believe is supposed to be there.
 
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I just took this cartridge back to the store nod exchanged for another new one. Still leaking. I got underneath the sink and realized there's a leak/drip coming from underneath on the single lever. Not sure from where yet.
 
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Update

The leak underneath the sink was simply from the cartridge continuing to leak. It was just leaking so much it was finding its way underneath the sink. I can't figure out why this stem keeps leaking? If I turn on the hot water under the sink at the shot off the stem doesn't leak, when I turn on the handles hot water the stem leaks. When I turn on the cold shut off valve under the sink the stem leaks right away even without the handle turned on.
Bottom line the water keeps coming up out of the cartridge.
 
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Old 11-23-12, 10:31 PM
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If it's coming out of the handle base then it would seem that you have an issue with the cartridge seal. 93980 handle mech. kit is shown in the parts breakdown. Looks there may be seals in there for the cartridge.
 
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I found the kit you are talking about. However I haven't even installed the handle mechanism yet. I just put in the cartridge and turned on the water valve under the sink and the water leaks up out the cartridge. The seals on the cartridge don't seem to be sealing? This shouldn't leak without the handle mech attached right? Doesn't look like the kit you recommended has cartridge seals?
 

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When you replaced the cart did you clean out the hole? Sometimes there is debri left from the old cartridge,
 
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Update on fix

I went back to the store and picked up another new cartridge. This time I got an all brass one instead of plastic. I put it in and much better seal. Turned on the water and no leak!! However there's a little metal washer that sits on top of the stem and I lost it!!! I put the handle back on and works great. No more leak from stem or handle base. I now get 1 drip every minute coming out the end of the spout. I order the metal washer, not sure if the absence of it is what's causing spout drip.
 
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That washer allows the cart stem to get retracted all the way down when the handle is shut.

Like the one on left , bottom


 
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Yes that metal washer on the left is the one I am missing. I think I returned it with the last cartridge I returned accidentally. I just ordered another one. So u think not having that on may b causing the spout drip?
 
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Old 11-24-12, 12:23 PM
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Yes probably. When the faucet is dripping push down on the handle. I bet the drip stops.
 
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I held down the handle didn't really notice a difference. It's such a slow leak. Any other trouble shooting or should I just wait for the washer.
 
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Old 11-24-12, 04:29 PM
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Well to know if its the cart turn the handle left or right and see if the leak stops. If so its the cart even though you have replaced numorous times. It may be a sediment issue or a piece of debris from the old cart.

Like I sad turning thre handle left or right why its in the off position often stops the leak.
 
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I tried swinging the handle left for a few mins then right. I still get the slight drip out of the spout.
 
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Update

I did get it fixed. Switching to the brass cartridge created a much better seal. When I put it in I lubed it up good and it was able to fit in like its sub nose to. I think before when I put it in I didn't lube it and it wasn't pushed down all the way. I like this brass cartridge.
 
 

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