Toilet fill valve change

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Old 12-09-12, 08:17 PM
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Toilet fill valve change

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I have one of those old Crane toilet that has a plastic ball lever that stops when the tank fills up. This mechanism does not work well and my tank always leaks water into the toilet constantly and I have replaced the gasket etc, once before. It slowed when I first replaced the gasket but eventually goes back to the same problem. I also tried to adjusting the screw to adjust the plastic ball lever but doesn't seem to last.

My question is essentially if I can retrofit this mechanism with the new type of fill valve system such as the one below:

Fluidmaster 400C Toilet Tank Repair Kit - Amazon.com

Is it fairly easy to do?

Thanks in advance for any helpful advice.
 
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Old 12-09-12, 08:28 PM
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Get the complete kit. You need new flush valve on top of the fill valve.

Amazon.com: Fluidmaster 400AK Complete Toilet Tank Repair Kit: Home Improvement


Easy? depends on your skills. You need to remove the tank. May be better replacing the toilet. Look towards long term... But if $$$ an issue repair.
 
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I finally got to install Fluidmaster toilet kit. All works well EXCEPT there seems small leaks of the water into the bowl, which causes to activate the fill valve at some intervals. Any tips on keeping the flapper tight to prevent the water leaks?

It is much better than before but I wonder if there is a way to prevent this occasional water noise.

Thank you for any advice from some experienced DIYiers,

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How far is the hose from the fill valve install into the overflow tube?

If to far it will siphon water from the tank....

Must be short...

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I rebuilt a Briggs last week and it was exhibiting the symptoms you describe, with the fill valve opening periodically to make up water loss from the tank. I took the tank back off and blocked it up over a sink (you can put it across the toilet bowl also), filled it with a bucket and watched it leak like a sieve around the overflow pipe threads. I tried tightening the 3" nut as tight as I could, but it still was leaking slightly. I finally packed the hole on the bottom of the tank with putty and again cranked the nut as tight as I could get it. Leak gone. The moral is that isn't always the flapper that is leaking.
 
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Here is the picture if it helps. The leak seems very small amount as there is no noise until the valve activates...
 
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There a lot of chain on top of the flapper. Whys that?

Is the flapper clipped on fully?

Chain not tight and has some play?

Sometimes new flappers are slightly warped from being in the package. Remove it and look.

I would add some more water to the tank. If that is a bendable handle I would tweak it so it hangs over the flapper more.
 
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