tub filler STILL leaks after replacing both hot and cold valve stems

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tub filler STILL leaks after replacing both hot and cold valve stems

I have an old clawfoot tub. I have an "Elizabethian Classics" tub filler with additional shower assembly. The faucet leaks. I replaced the washers on the cera mic style stems....no luck. I replaced both the hot and cold stems....also no luck. There is a compression type piece in the divertor section, however, I'm not sure if this needs replacing as there is no "off" position...just tub, or shower. This leads me to believe that water will still get into the faucet. Any suggestions?
 
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You replaced the washers, what about the seats?
 
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Thx for your reply. I replaced the entire valve stem assembly...both hot and cold.
 
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I want to say I've read about a tool where I can recondition/remove burrs from inside the faucet. Does this seem right?
 
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I would assume this unit is of cartridge type.......Must be something is not tight enough or the o ring is compromised.

This should not be old stem and washer style.

If its new call the manufacturer. Possible there is a defect...who knows...


Here is an example of your brand. I dont know what madel you have.

 
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Mod Note: Moved from another thread. http://www.doityourself.com/forum/to...-new-post.html

I recently posted a thread that my tub filler was leaking....I haven't gotten any solutions to this point. I have the old clawfoot tub with an Elizabethian Classic desighn tub filler. I have water leaking from the faucet, if I move the devertor it will leak from the shower head. I replaced both of the stem assemblies with no luck.
I'm not sure what a "seat" is....is that the flat washer on the bottom of the stem? Not sure how the assemble itself works. There is a piece of ceramic that opens and closes when turned....I don't see where it interacts with the "seat".
So, it I understand you correctly....you "oversized" this bottom washer ?
 

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I'm not sure what a "seat" is....is that the flat washer on the bottom of the stem?

Read more: http://www.doityourself.com/forum/to...#ixzz2LkHgoMmW
No, a seat is what the rubber washer seals against. It screws into the body of the faucet. (Some very old faucets may have it molded into the body and it is non removable.) It is removed with a seat tool which is square on one end and hex on the other. The seat tool is either tapered or stepped to fit various size seats. Tapered is best for worn or odd interior sized seats. Most modern faucets have cartridges not rubber washers and seats.

 
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Ohhhh.....I didn;t know about this....will check.
Thanks!!!
 
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I took another look at this ....not exactly sure what I'm looking at....appears to be a rimmed hole about the size of a watch baattery. I could not see any hex-like features to remove them. Augh...wish I could find a components list to this faucet. The faucet is about 5 years old.....so if it's non-removeable? Hope I'm not screwed on this...these tub fillers are very expensive.
 
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Take some pics...... This way we can identify the style and parts list.....
 
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I'm trying to upload a pix, copy a pix or manage an attachment. ALso have a call to plumbing supply store that carried the valve stems.
 
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Could you also take a pic of the cartridge? Both sides?
 
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I think I need to add text to seend this out
 
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OK back to basics. The faucet leaks out the spout right?

Or does not leak from the cartridge under the handle?

How old is this faucet? I believe there is a 5 year warranty... possibly lifetime.

Its ceramic disc technology so I believe it will only leak if the cart has sediment.

The body itself could be faulty internally and have a hairline crack.....
 
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leaks from the spout....if I lever up the divertor, it will leak from the shower head.
This is my second filler....I had one that was leaking from a small pin hole in the body. I have the old one but the stem valves are different. Additionally the seats are rubber with a spring under there. Very different from the model now installed. Having trouble contacting company.
Had to replace a stem in the faucet in the sink.it actually split....same manufacturer.
I'm determined to figure this out....eventually it will happen.
Still waiting on info about the seats. The dripping is driving me crazy!!
 
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There are no seats.............. Its a washerless design. Seatless design.

Looks like kohler cartridges. The other faucet you stated with the springs is of delta design.

The company is your best bet for no cost replacement. But you may want to just get a different brand.

Thats home store stuff right?
 
 

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