Toilet leaking from bottom- clogged line to the sewer

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Old 10-28-13, 11:24 PM
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Toilet leaking from bottom- clogged line to the sewer

I am having problems with draining the toilets and shower tubs. After laundry, the toilets gurgle and the bathtubs backwash from the drain and fill the tub with water from the washer. I put some hot water in the toilet and bathtub. The hot water did drain very slowly after 10min.

Now after hot water, the problem is that it's leaking at the floor to toilet junction. I don't know if it is the wax seal or the problem is the line to the sewer that is clogged and water will not drain, and then it backs up floods out under the toilet.

What is the next step to do?
Please advise.

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Old 10-28-13, 11:41 PM
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Septic or city sewer?
Hot water and drain cleaner are going to do nothing. DO NOT ADD ANY DRAIN CLEANER! Someone's going to have to open up a clean out to run a snake and there not going to want toxic, caustic chemicals all over them.
You have a main drain line plugged up some place that need to be snaked.
No little sink drain snake is going to fix it.
If your on a septic system it could be a number of things. Tanks full and needs to be pump out, leach field or distribution tank has failed.
 
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It is city sewer. The sink is good, just the toilets and bathtubs.
 
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Old 10-29-13, 12:21 AM
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Some place there a clean out to clean out the drain.
Any access under the house?
There's going to be a plug or cap that needs to be removed to snake it.
 
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Old 10-29-13, 12:24 AM
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More likely as not the bathtub drain connects to the toilet drain before it reaches the main drain. A plumber will take the toilet off and run a large, powered drain cleaning snake down that line.

You might also want to have a camera inspection done to visually ascertain the drain/sewer piping condition all the way to the city sewer. Camera inspection is usually somewhere around $100 to $300 and they should give you a price break if done at the same time as the drain cleaning.
 
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Old 10-29-13, 08:18 PM
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Can this Drum Auger be used without taking off the toilet?

BrassCraft 1/4 in. x 15 ft. Drum Auger-BC84150 at The Home Depot
 
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Old 10-29-13, 08:30 PM
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No... That drum auger will not do diddly. You have a main clog somewhere. You need a camera inspection and a proper auger with a machine. The auger will temp clear and the camera will tell you what you need,,, Such as pipe replacement, root treatment, new line ...etc...


At a minimum this snake but maybe bigger...


RIDGID K-400 Drain Cleaner-24853 at The Home Depot


You will need to snake at the toilet and camera all the way to the street as Furd suggested... If there is a clean out out side you may go from there as long as the clog/trouble is outside the home, which 80 % is IMO...
 
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Old 10-29-13, 08:31 PM
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It can be used, just not going to do anything to unplug a drain line that big.
Still have not answered my question, is there access under the area where this bathroom is?
If so the clean out cap or plug needs to come out so a larger snake can be run down the drain.
drain snake - Bing Videos
 
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Maybe but it likely will not do the job in the first place. Given that you have a leak at the bottom of the stool, I'd assume you need a new wax ring anyway and pull the stool and then snake the line.
 
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Old 10-29-13, 08:33 PM
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I am going on my experience of 30 yrs and what you describe I am 100 % sure you have main line issue...

Roots, collapsed pipe, orangeburg pipe....etc....
 
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Old 10-29-13, 08:35 PM
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That little snake is about 1" around, the drain will be ether 3 or 4". That small a snake will do nothing but put a hole in clog.
 
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I couldn't find a main drain line outside the house.
I removed one of two toilets to snake from there.

Did you guys do the same, snake the main drain line from the toilet bottom?
 
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Old 11-04-13, 05:25 PM
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Did you guys do the same, snake the main drain line from the toilet bottom?
Yes thats how its done when there is no access to a clean out.. Somtimes I run the snake down the main roof vent. But there is a method to do it that way and a two person job...
 
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I tried to use some Gel Drain Opener and lots of boiling water before. Does it affect when I'm going to snake the drain now?
 
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Yes, as you now need to be more careful not to splash anything on you.
 
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Old 11-05-13, 10:34 AM
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The house is about 1390 sqft. It is one story single home home.

Home Depot has 3 different sizes of snake drain cleaner machine.

50 ft, 75ft, 100ft

Which one is enough for that size of a one story house?
 
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Old 11-05-13, 12:41 PM
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dont put drain cleaner OR hot water in your toilet.

for a main line snake get the biggest.
after our hurricane 2 years ago leaves and debris were washed into our main clogging it. Spent an hour snaking that thing. Think I may have to do it again soon. Im replacing the downstairs toilet so I may just do it then.
Our main pitch out though is complete crap.

Like lawrosa said if its roots or anything besides a small blockage cleaner will do squat. You can not pout enough cleaner down there to do anything.

Have you ever used a large snake? Most home depots rent them. Look up some youtube vids on how to do it, its tricky with one person even if you know what your doing. Sometimes its nice to have one guy work the pedal while you feed the line slowly. Also be careful not to go to rough. Be easy cause if there is something like roots and you hit it with the wrong snake bit "SNAP" and you have a whole new problem.
 
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Have you ever used a large snake? Most home depots rent them. Look up some youtube vids on how to do it, its tricky with one person even if you know what your doing. Sometimes its nice to have one guy work the pedal while you feed the line slowly. Also be careful not to go to rough. Be easy cause if there is something like roots and you hit it with the wrong snake bit "SNAP" and you have a whole new problem.
1-No. It's the first time using the snake. Why is it tricky?

2-Can I carry the 100ft snake machine in a NISSAN Maxima?

3-How can I determine that there is roots or just normal clogged?

4-I think the best way is to start with the smallest snake bit "SNAP" right?
 
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Old 11-05-13, 05:07 PM
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I got the 100ft snake at home depot and I'm trying to snake the main line from the bottom of the toilet.

Problem: The snake stuck after 2 feet of feeding. Is it root in the pipe? Why is that?

Does it help to remove the other toilet bowl to try from there or it will be the same?

Please advise, Thanks.
 
 

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