Non-Removable shower valve, possible?


Old 08-06-14, 09:55 AM
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Non-Removable shower valve, possible?

OK so my issue that I am having is, the hot water is a continues stream out of the faucet. I just thought this should be a simple valve replacement and should be fixed. So I removed the handle and shroud and attempted to unscrew the valve stem with a shower socket, I tried and tried and tried and got nothing. so I looked in the access panel in the closet and it appears that the valve stem and such it a one piece design. I tried removed the outer collar on the stem and that got me no where. I have no seen or heard of a unit like this before, I am not a master plumber but know a decent amount.

The house was built in the 1920's and I believe the bathroom was redone in the 50's sometime. I know not the make and model of the shower fixtures

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Old 08-06-14, 12:51 PM
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Since you have access to behind the unit, have you considered a total replacement with a modern fixture? Drawbacks to that?
Old 08-06-14, 01:34 PM
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Replace it... This would be your best option. There are a few brands. Here is a kohler.

KOHLER Wall-Mount 2-Handle Valve System for 8 in. Centers-K-302-K-NA at The Home Depot

Here is wally world special...

Price Pfister Bedford 2 Handle Shower Valve Body: Plumbing & Fixtures :

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Awesome thanks for your input and thanks for the welcome :-) I was thinking complete replacement was going to be what was needed and honestly the better option. Thinking of maybe switching to a 3 handle system and moving the diverter to a handle vs the pull up on the facet, any reason why that would not be advisable?
Old 08-06-14, 02:36 PM
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The pull up rod on the spout does the same thing. Forces the flow to find another path (up, instead of down). I think the valves are a little cheaper too maybe? A little fancier look I guess, but the pull up has been used for a long time and works fine.

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