old Delta shower valves

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Old 03-20-15, 08:34 PM
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old Delta shower valves

Bought old house with two old Delta shower valves. Both leak. Wondering three things.

What are the models? and
Are they still available? and/or
Are parts available?

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Old 03-21-15, 12:31 AM
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Yeah, parts are available but in my opinion the best thing you could do is to replace them with Moen valves.
 
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Old 03-21-15, 01:10 AM
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Agree with Furd, probably no temperature control on either one.
 
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Delta for the most part now uses a universal plumbing rough in. It is the part that the pipes hook up to behind the plate you see on the handle. If you can pull the cover trim plate off and get a picture of the rough in assembly behind it, we can see if you can upgrade without a tear out.
 
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If you contact Delta directly they will send you the parts for free.
 
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thank you all
replace with Moen? was planning to do that but plumber said would need to get access on the other side, since both bath rooms are up for remodel in a year or two we are reluctant to do that at this moment, would just like the leaks stopped

take off front plate?
will try that

contact Delta?
will try that

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here is pic of one of them
also tub drain stopper does not work, here is pic of that piece
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here is pic of the other one
three pipes
seems to me joints are threaded on this one

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Unfortunately, I can not tell from the pics if it is current design or not. Here is a link to the current version.

R10000-UN Delta MultiChoice® Universal Tub and Shower Valve Body : Bath Products : Delta Faucet
 
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called Delta
they say is 600 series
 
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Old 03-21-15, 07:25 PM
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Delta support says kits are available for both valves and gave me the RP numbers.
Given that I am not a plumber but have tools and am reasonably handy...

1) Do I simply believe her and order the kits? and
2) Do I attempt the repairs myself?

or
1) Should a qualified plumber check the content of the kits to be sure they are the correct ones? and
2) Should I find a plumber to install the kits?
 
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Well, give us the numbers for the kits or link to the exact and we can review and advise. Most are straight forward, but every now and then you run into a head scratcher.
 
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The one in post 8 is pretty easy although there are springs, O-rings and discs that can easily jump onto the floor and get lost. I don't have any experience with the other one.
 
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Make sure you stuff a rag into the drain, close the lid on the toilet and lift up on the stopper on the sink so if a spring jumps, you won't lose it down a drain. If you have a heating and air vent register in the floor, cover that as well.

Here is a complete video on how to change your 600 series. Seems fairly straight forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaHUMbUZbHk
 
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thanks for the video, nice

as for her RP advice
I put in #'s and links(if they work)

for the rectangular one downstairs that moves just L and R
she said is a 1500 series
should use RP32104
<http://www.deltafaucet.com/parts/details/rp32104.html>
there is no trim kit

for the round one upstairs that moves L and R and up/down
she said is 600 series
should use RP3614 or
<http://www.deltafaucet.com/parts/details/rp3614.html>
RP44123
<http://www.deltafaucet.com/customersupport/results.html?type=support&back=%2Fprofessionals%2Fshowroom%2Findex.html&document=pd&query=rp44123>
trim kit RP54870
<http://www.deltafaucet.com/bath/details/rp54870.html>

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Hi,
I watched the video the only thing I would add, would be if that dome won't come loose I heat with my heat gun and it removes easy. It takes very little heat a hair dryer would work.
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Delta lady said soak in 50% vinegar overnight but
I have a hair dryer so will try that also
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re: the tub waste mechanism (pic below)

Delta says they have no old rocker arms so

any idea where to get a rocker arm that will work in this Delta tub waste mechanism?
 
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made lots of headway; had a professional come down from Oak Harbor (N end of Whidbey); not cheap but nice work; I could not have done it; he had to saw off the nut on the Series 600 (round one) etc; but now no leaks, first time since 2011; thanks for the help
 
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Nice to hear of success.

RE: your overflow assembly, you can buy a replacement at the box stores. The arms are usually held on by a removable pin. Use the innards of the old with the face plate of the new.
 
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