Need help installing water shut off valve and turning off water main

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Old 08-03-15, 07:58 PM
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Need help installing water shut off valve and turning off water main

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I'm hoping you can help me finish my bathroom toilet issue.

The home we are living in has an older American Standard toilet and had been leaking from the water supply line & decided to replace it along with the fill valve as both older and thought I could handle it as seemed pretty basic. I installed a Fluidmaster but didn't have a good angle-or wrench when trying to change the supply hose and bent the handle on the water shut off valve!

So I guess I learned from my mistakes and now have the right tools & installed the supply line Ok but when I turned the water back on it was hard turning the handle-no surprise-& the water was very slow filling the toilet. So I figured I might need to replace the valve & went to my local big box retailer where I get those items and confirmed thats what I need.

My next problem is turning off the plumbing at the meter but I had hoped to avoid that that as thought I could just turn the water off to that toilet in the basement as there are all kinds of shut off valves that go to that bathroom-I thought, but none seemed the water supply to that toilet! There was hot & cold water shut offs to sink, tub, & to the master bathroom not too far away.

So then decided to look for the water meter by the curb. I couldn't locate it though this home had a new line put in several yeras ago-had to have driveway repaced too. I found a meter near the front of the house which has a label: Mainline Fullport Backwater Valve Model #4963 and looked it up & not sure if thats what I need to access-looks like a couple of buttons on top but not sure. And then in basement a big manhole looking thing with pipe coming in from outside-am assuming thats the back flow system or whatever. Also in driveway there is a smaller round plate-could be a clean out access maybe?

So enclosing a few pics-hope you can help me finish the drill! thanks so much-sorry for the long post..

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Old 08-03-15, 08:14 PM
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I don't see anything helpful in the pics.

If you know where the water meter is then check the basement for a valve that would line up to or point at the water meter area. There will be a valve at the water meter but there should be one in the house. This is an important thing to know about as a homeowner in case of an emergency leak or pipe rupture.

In your first picture is a soldered on stop valve. Do you plan to solder a new one in its place ?

The Mainline fullport backwater valve is a sewage check valve to keep sewage from returning from the street back into your house.
 
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The Mainline Fullport Backwater Valve has nothing to do with shutting the main feed valve. You have to locate the water meter or as you said, the cold water feed to the bathroom.
 
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Old 08-03-15, 09:49 PM
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Thanks Pulpo. Wasn't sure about that Mainline meter as have never seen that before thought I'd mention it as couldn't find any other meter
 
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Old 08-03-15, 10:50 PM
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Thx. for your reply, Pete. Just thought I'd post those pics. hoping someone might recognize where the cutoff to the toilet might be or should
be in the basement area in relationship to the toilet as this is new to me. Don't know where main meter is-usually in front near curb and If I saw it I could have shut it off. I thought maybe since all this this work was done, possibly they relocated the meter also. I'm not the owner and they are out of the country & cannot get in touch with them now but in the past they've said they replaced the main sewer line from the street and had to tear up the driveway to do that so thought that round plate could have something to do with it as well as the Mainline valve box.
I guess I could call the county & see if I can get any info. Could be meter just hard to find in yard or they may be using wireless or virtual readings.

But curious about where an inside cutoff might be? Possible near water heater-furnace area? What would I look for- has a pretty big basement- about half finished-& the other part crawl space. Both have all kinds of large pipes overhead-hard to tell where they go or come from except the ones that I can see going up to bathrooms.

As far as the soldered stop valve - er..thanks for asking ;( I have no idea & was hoping I could just take the other bolt off like I have seen in the videos & put the replacement on ?? Though I've seen some where they cut some pipe off? If that's the scenario I might be done with my do it your self plumbing apprentice career...thx. again for your help…
 
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Can you ask a neighbor where his valve is located?
 
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Old 08-22-15, 03:29 PM
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Thanks anyway-have a plumber coming next week
 
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