Toilet No Water in Water Tank, Not Flushing

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Old 09-04-15, 10:48 PM
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Toilet No Water in Water Tank, Not Flushing

Okay so my toilet has been acting very weird. A while ago i noticed my toilet was leaking water to the bowl. Basically its like one stream of water that is leaking from the back of it. By that i mean its leaking water to the toilet water. Thus the toilet makes sound because the water is dripping. First off, does that make sense or does that confuse anyone?


Anyways, I then flushed toilet few times but each time i did that, a while later same thing would happen. Basically the water keep leaking into the bowl... is that the right way to say it?


So i then opened up the toilet tank and just did some trial and error to see if that would stop it. At first it didn't do anything but then after a bit, it stopped and no more of that sound which is great. However... I then noticed there was no water filling up the tank anymore. Thus you cannot flush the toilet.


Does anyone know why this is happening? This is worst than my previous problem. Also i would pour a few liters of water into the toilet but it would not flush. I read online that if it doesn't then theres an issue somewhere inside the toilet? So now what im doing now is just pouring liters of water into the tank. When i flush, it has no issues but of course after flushing 2 times, then theres very little water in the bank then i have to refill it etc.


What am i suppose to do here? I thought i cured my initial problem of one stream of water leaking into the bowl but now theres no water in the tank at all. I turned off the water supply to toilet, then turned it back on but same thing nothing.


The other thing I wonder was could this have anything to do with my apartment or building? Reason i ask this is because sometimes there would be no water at all... none at sink, shower etc but then someone in building would mention this and then it would get fixed. Rarely if ever the toilet had this issue i believe. However i dont think this is an issue with every toilet in building b/c if it was, im pretty sure someone would have said something.


Did i do something to the inside of the water tank that could have caused this? If so, all i did was basically pressed few things etc. Also... im not sure what this is called but theres like a piece that seemed to be attached to another piece. Like a straw of you will that would attach pretty well to another thing. I see that is not placed on it. However... i placed that straw as i call it inside that hole but still no water in the water tank. Anyone have solution on this?
 
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Old 09-04-15, 11:00 PM
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Okay this is bit strange. I moved the circular thing, it seemed to have went down. Now it seems to work.


Another thing but that straw... its suppose to be left on the water right? Because if i pick it up, i could actually put it and it would fit into the thing in the middle. Not sure whats the right term but i think you all know what i mean?
 
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Old 09-04-15, 11:20 PM
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Justin... without pictures we don't know what you are looking at.
Can you post pictures ?

In the picture I posted...... the blue thing on the bottom is the flapper. When it wears out or gets hard..... it allows water to leak out.

The big round black thing is the float that controls the water fill. If that gets stuck the water won't refill.

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Okay thanks for that picture. First off, the fill tube isn't attached to the overflow tube. The fill tube basically is not attached and basically on the water etc. I'm also pretty sure i never pulled it off from the overflow tube. However... at the moment, toilet is flushing properly. So is it suppose to be attached or not attached to the overflow tube? Im very positive i never pulled it out from it. However i found it strange... hey it fit right in the overflow tube.


Okay the Float. Thats not how it looks my toilet tank. its basically right under the fill valve and float adjustment screw. Well its right on the poll of it.... does that make sense? Imagine putting it right on the gray pole under it. In the picture the float is horizontal. What happened was the float got pushed a bit down... then once that happened... now it flushes. Does that make sense or not?
 
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Old 09-04-15, 11:59 PM
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It's possible that the float is sticking. That small hose needs to be in the overflow tube as that's how the toilet bowl refills. There should be a clip to hold it in place.


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Hi. At the moment the hose isn't in the tube. Also... im pretty certain close to 100 percent it was never in the tube. Because i never touched it before until these issues.


However... if i leave it as it is, would there be any issues? Its fine at the moment.
 
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The thin hose (fill tube) should not be left loose. Otherwise Its curvature may change randomly with each flush. At some time it may squirt water between the tank rim and tank lid and water comes out and runs down the outside of the tank onto the floor.

Some submodels of that Fluidmaster ballcock (float on the pole under the fill valve) have a safety gizmo that stops the fill process. There is some analog (read: imprecise, not foolproof) logic that attempts to sense a leak that may possibly be spilling water out onto the floor. The slow leakage via a worn flapper into the bowl may be a condition that causes the safety catch to not let the float drop and refill the tank as needed. Finally the tank empties out and stays empty.
 
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AllanJ may have nailed it if the flush valve is one of the newer models with "Leak Sentry". This explains it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA8ck5zeHM0
I recently installed this model and I'm considering bypassing this "clever" feature because sometimes visitors short-cycle the handle so the float never drops to allow the tank to fill. It's an idea that fixes a problem most of us don't have...
 
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