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Old 12-08-15, 02:23 PM
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disposal leaking from bottom

The garbage disposal is leaking water out from the bottom of it. I called Insinkerator and they said this old model (777) has been discontinued and the issue is something internal and said the disposal needs replacement. So I want to uninstall it for now. Just a matter of disconnecting the drain pipe from it, unplugging it, then twisting it off that rusty looking flange? Any tricks to that? Any comments/advice appreciated.

 
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Old 12-08-15, 02:53 PM
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You will need to replace the strainer in the sink also.

Add a tailpiece to the new strainer and reconfigure the trap.. ( I cant see the trap in the pic...)
 
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Old 12-08-15, 02:59 PM
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Okay got the thing off. So not much chance with these things when this happens to try to fix it, open it up and replace a seal or whatever?
 
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Old 12-08-15, 03:23 PM
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So not much chance with these things when this happens to try to fix it, open it up and replace a seal or whatever?
No.. Usually the housings crack..

I take out more disposals and convert back to a normal sink drain then I do install new disposals..

IMO they are a waste and should be outlawed...
 
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Old 12-08-15, 04:53 PM
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IMO they are a waste
Yeah we could/should just live without the dang thing. I'll get a new tailpiece and new sink strainer and reconfigure the trap if need be, as you mentioned/suggested; just plumb the drain straight through without the dang thing. Who needs it. Thanks!
 
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When I pulled my disposal several years ago I found that about 80% of the mount was eaten away. I haven't missed it for a second.
 
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Old 12-08-15, 09:50 PM
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Eaten away? By rust I presume. As you can see in my picture, rust on the mount there pretty heavy. Glad to hear you don't miss yours Furd; we shouldn't miss ours either then.
 
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The part that was eaten away was pot metal, about 80% of the circumference. I suspect that had I known which way to "bend" it I could have rocked it back and forth a few times and broken it off.
 
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Old 12-09-15, 09:40 AM
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Here's a picture after getting rid of the disposal. Any suggestions for proper/sensible reconfiguring of the drain/trap appreciated. I notice there is another separate wall drain outlet there (with plug threaded in) above the other drain outlet with the trap...
Edit: I also notice no cover on the electrical receptacle outlet. I'll get one...

 
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Old 12-09-15, 12:01 PM
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And here's a closer/clearer shot of the stubout(s) under there:

 
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You need strainer of course. Then a tail piece off the strainer.

A trap.... Fit the trap to tail piece. You may need a tail piece extension due to the fact that the waste line is so low.. They sell 18" tail piece but you may not find in home store..

If you have a dish washer you will need a DW tail piece..

And because the sink center is so far away from the waste line at the wall you will probably need another tail piece ext there..


Here is the best pic I can find that shows tail piece ext.. Youll need two as stated..

Ignore the comment in the pic..

 
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Old 12-09-15, 01:13 PM
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Get rid of the brass trap. They corrode and leak over time. I recommend a plastic trap. All you probably need to do is swing the trap so it lines up with the sink. You may need to use an extension with the tail piece if a 12" is too short.

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What about the idea of plugging off the lower wall outlet and connecting new p-trap etc to the upper wall outlet there? thanks
 
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Old 12-09-15, 01:32 PM
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What about the idea of plugging off the lower wall outlet and connecting new p-trap etc to the upper wall outlet there? thanks
You could but I think that is a cleanout tee and not a san tee. And how would you plug the bottom ??


Probably not an issue really as the vent goes straight up right...
 
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how would you plug the bottom ?
Maybe with a 1 1/2" threaded plastic cap?
 
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Maybe with a 1 1/2" threaded plastic cap?
OK.. Then for the top you can do a female adapter... A st 45 glued in the adpt.. A short piece of pipe to get you close to the strainer, then a trap adapter.. ( That will be all glued.. Dry fit it all first) Nice and hard piped up ti the trap...

Make sure you put a little pitch on the pipe...
 
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Old 12-09-15, 02:46 PM
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As said, you can probably align the new trap with the tailpiece by using an extension from the wall. If not, here's a link to a slip tube elbow. I don't like to use them, but on the other hand they do work. I would back up the slip washers with a little Teflon paste.

Everbilt 1-1/2 in. PVC 45-Degree Slip Joint Elbow-C9665 - The Home Depot
 
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Old 12-09-15, 06:58 PM
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OK.. Then for the top you can do a female adapter... A st 45 glued in the adpt.. A short piece of pipe to get you close to the strainer, then a trap adapter.
And apparently I would then probably need a coupler to connect the street 45 to my short piece of pipe, correct?
 
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Old 12-09-15, 07:03 PM
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I meant male adapter

A st 45 will glue into the male adapter.

A piece of pipe in the st 45

then a trap adapter on the end of the pipe...
 
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Old 12-09-15, 07:31 PM
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I meant male adapter
A st 45 will glue into the male adapter.
A piece of pipe in the st 45
I used a male adapter. One end of the st 45 glues into the male adapter but then to connect the other end of the st 45 to the piece of pipe I apparently would need a coupler to do that, correct?
 
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One end of the st 45 glues into the male adapter
The st end glues to the male adpt. The other end gets a piece of pipe glued in.
 
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Old 12-09-15, 09:24 PM
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No wonder I got myself confused. I've been trying to use a female adapter, thinking it was a male but mistaken about that. Here's the adapter and the st 45 I've was trying to use, but I need to get myself a male one, then I should be fine.

 
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Or use a (MPT)male/PVC(male adapter) to female end of street el and a PVC(female)/(MPT)male.

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Old 12-09-15, 10:29 PM
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To me, the fitting shown on the left in post #23 seems the same as the fitting shown on the right in post #22 (except that one is ABS (white) and the other is PVC (black). The street el in each post looks pretty much the same but not quite (post #22 has the buttress or whatever it might be called on that one end). Not clear on whether you're saying I would use all three of those fittings in your post Ray for what I'm trying to do.
 
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I discovered that I actually have a male adapter (shown in post 22), but it's a male thread x spigot(male). The common "male adapter" (of which I've come to the understanding now that I think lawrosa has been referring to) is male thread x female hub(or socket). So I think I could probably keep the adapter I have and then use a standard 45*(hub on both ends) to glue to the piece of pipe that goes to the trap adapter. OR I could get/use a common male adapter (instead of "uncommon" one I have) and then keep/use my street 45. One or the other, and I don't think it should make any difference...
 
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not clear on whether you're saying I would use all three of those fittings in your post Ray
Yes you would put them together in that order. One end screws into the clean out the other receives the compression nut and trap. (Note each connection in the picture is labeled male or female. MPT = male pipe thread.)

You could also use two MPT/male pvc adapters and a standard 45 el.
 
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Old 12-10-15, 02:35 AM
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Thats an inside male adapter you show in post #22. Its not normal practice to use them.

Male adapter.

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Female adapter

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inside male adapter
Mike is it wrong to use an inside male adapter? (If so, please delete my posts #23 and #26.)
 
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Got 'er done. Thanks for all the help/comments, big time.

 
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Mike is it wrong to use an inside male adapter? (If so, please delete my posts #23 and #26.)
Its OK.. Just not typical of what I ever used. I dont think I ever had one on my trucks.. Usually no need for it.

Just my opinion..

No need to delete your posts. Its good to show that there are options and other ways to do things..

Got 'er done. Thanks for all the help/comments, big time.
Looks great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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