Trying to install new toilet

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Old 09-06-19, 02:06 PM
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Trying to install new toilet

Hello, we are remodeling our bathroom. Plumber we used is no longer working, so I called another plumber to install the new toilet, now that the tile floor has been installed. He said the flange is missing (he's "never seen anything like it!") and he needs to cut a 2'x2' hole in the ceiling underneath to put an entirely new pipe in there.

I've been reading as much as I can understand about this situation, and I don't really think this is the way to go. I'm reading about closet flange spacer rings, push tite gaskets, toilet flange repair rings, 3 1/2 bolts, etc. All of which is to say that I think there might be hope that this might be fixed without cutting a hole in the ceiling underneath.

Below is a picture of what it looks like. The pipe appears to be thin PVC or plastic. It's not metal and nothing looks rusted inside. The outer diameter of the black circle is 5 1/4". The problem is that I don't see anyplace to bolt something down? Not sure I'm explaining this correctly.

Can someone please help me to understand what I'm looking at here? Thank you.
 
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09-06-19, 02:12 PM
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There is a flange that will slid down that pipe. Measure the inside diamater of pipe and go to Lowes or HD or plumbers store and they will have what you need. Flange will be glued and screwed down. Don't use the pumber you called if he doesn't know this.
 
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There is a flange that will slid down that pipe. Measure the inside diamater of pipe and go to Lowes or HD or plumbers store and they will have what you need. Flange will be glued and screwed down. Don't use the pumber you called if he doesn't know this.
 
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I have done a few toilets in the last two years in our house.
Most of my installs are 3" ABS (black as yours) with a flange that looks very similar to what you have except yours does not have the toilet mounting holes.
Basically something Like this https://www.lowes.ca/product/abs-dwv...E&gclsrc=aw.ds.
From what I can see, unless there is something that would work with this to bolt the toilet to, your new plumber is going to have to cut the pipe back (in the ceiling below) and replace the ~3" ABS with a new piece and the flange.
 
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Old 09-06-19, 06:22 PM
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He said the flange is missing (he's "never seen anything like it!")
He right, it is missing, and that's because you're doing a remodel and the flange is not yet installed. And if he has never seen this before, maybe he bought his license from K-Mart!
 
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Looks like some of the tile and thinset is going to have to be chiseled out in order for the flange to fit. The top of your new flange (once installed) should be very close to being the same level as your new tile is. (i.e. flush with the top of the tile)

It also looks like there is an old polyurethane sleeve still sticking in the drain with silicone around it... that should be removed.
 
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Thank you for explaining this. Does the flange get affixed to the board under the tile or through the tile and the board?

How does one remove the polyurethane sleeve? I can't find information about it on the internet. Thank you so much for your help.
 
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I don't know if there is anything wrong with going on top of your tile base but I usually attach it to the subfloor to make sure it's not sticking proud of the finished tile surface. You will need to cut the tile back to make room for the flange.
 
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You need to glue an inside street flange in there and raise it to tile height..

They make them in all plastic.. Use abs to pvc transition cement

 
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Thank you everyone for your responses. I understand this better now! Very helpful!
 
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