No water flow to hand-held shower (Clawfoot tub).

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Old 06-16-20, 07:43 AM
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No water flow to hand-held shower (Clawfoot tub).

The tub had not been used in several months.
When I went to check the shower operation, the diverter does not stop the flow to the spout and no water reaches the shower head.
I partially disassembled the unit - see photos.
Plugging the spout on one of the supply inputs, I blew into the other supply connector, but no air comes out the shower connection.
There is no manufacturer's name on the unit.
Can this be further disassembled to find out what is blocking the flow? Alternatively, I guess the diverter handle is not turning enough to get through the open position.
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Old 06-16-20, 10:10 AM
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I would think with a flashlight you could look into the tub spout or upper connection and see if the diverter piece is actually turning.

I didn't find that valve in my image search...... google image search.
 
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Old 06-16-20, 10:19 AM
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Hmmm...
I just tried it and from looking through the shower outlet connection, there is no movement visible at all...
 
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Did you remove a bolt from the diverter handle?
Like the hot and cold handles have.
The handle should pull off.
Or does the handle arm unscrew releasing it?
 
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I took a bolt from the diverter handle and removed it.
The gear mechanism moves in or out when turned clockwise and counter-clockwise respectively.
 
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Old 06-20-20, 10:24 AM
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There is now a flow of water , BUT...
The diverter is acting strangely. It turns itself off and jumps around, making a weird noise.
Please see the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm-Y...ature=youtu.be

Ideas? It looks like it would cost $300+ to replace this unit.
 
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Do you know the make and model.
Take a mirror and look under the spout the maker may be stamped into it there.

The reason I ask is that many taps have lifetime warranties.

Did you pull the handle off?
It should pull off.
Then the bubble type cover should unscrew and let you get at the mechanism. It may be a cartridge that needs replacing.
 
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I'd remove the diverter lever then wrap the diverter body in a scrap of leather to prevent scratching and unscrew it to see what's going on inside. Maybe the stem has broken so the lever is no longer connected to anything.
 
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I've checked carefully and there are no names/marks/symbols that I can find.

So the portion that I've highlighted in red should unscrew, with some convincing?
 
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No, the bit under the knob will unscrew. First remove the screw in the center of the lever. Then the lever should pull off. Then the bell shaped piece underneath can be unscrewed. Be careful not to bugger the surface as it's probably brass underneath and easily marked. I use a scrap of heavy leather as it offers grip and protects against marks from the wrench.
 
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Thanks - I'll give it a shot in the morning.
 
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Old 06-23-20, 09:56 AM
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I've removed the valve.
When the stem A is turned the end B with the gaskets on both sides extends slightly. But that end can be held, without any movement when the stem is turned - which I guess is the problem.

Any idea where I could source a replacement? With no manufacturer's name or part #'s, I am not having any luck.

Thanks for the help!
 
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It sounds like the shaft in the center is broken. You can try looking for a replacement but you might have better luck hitting the Power Ball lottery. If there is an old fashioned plumbing supplier nearby that has dusty, cluttered piles of parts you could try there. Otherwise it might be time to shop for another faucet. If you want the same look you can try Ebay or vintage plumbing stores that carry reclaimed hardware & fixtures.

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Do you know any hobby machinists or welders? I've made parts for faucets but if I had to charge for the work would cost more than a new fixture. But, yours might be a simple fix if you can find the right person. The broken ends of the shaft/rod could be silver soldered or brazed back together.
 
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Old 06-24-20, 07:23 AM
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My brother-in-law does welding.
I'll have to figure out how to disassemble the unit to get at the rod, but it's worth the try.
Thanks for your help - again.
 
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Some plumbing supply houses may have a catalog showing a variety of cartridges and stem assemblies some looking nearly alike to what you have. You might be able to pick out an exact match, and then order it.
 
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Old 06-29-20, 08:48 AM
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After looking through 1000's of pictures of diverter stem assemblies (in person and on-line catalogs), with no luck, I've given up on the search for a replacement.

I also have not been able to figure out how to disassemble this thing, to attempt a wels/brazing repair...
Any ideas?
 
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