Alter hand toilet auger


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Old 10-20-22, 11:36 AM
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Alter hand toilet auger

I needed longer auger because std. 3 ft would not reach deep enough. Next length is 6 ft. I would like to reduce length to 5 ft to make it easier to use. Anyone know how to separate springy part from rod that has crank?
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Old 10-20-22, 12:22 PM
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More than likely it's going to be some type of crimp.
Pull the handle out of the tube. Can you see the joint ?
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Mine have a spring loaded button on the shaft to change the length of protruding snake/spring. It can be set to three different lengths. Honestly though I've never extended beyond the shortest length. If 3' doesn't do it the longer lengths rarely help so I go for the 25' or 50' snake.
 
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Old 11-22-22, 09:09 AM
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I suspect some kind of weld but there is no sign of welding. Can't imagine a glue holding it. Rod portion extends about 1 1/4 inches into flexible part (to the left).

PS: Couldn't get picture attached.
 
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Did you follow the picture instructions I left in post 2 ?
 
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You could remove toilet and auger from the bowl and base unless the problem is in the waste pipe.
 
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Old 11-23-22, 10:03 AM
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Alter hand toilet auger

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Old 11-23-22, 10:07 AM
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I think I got picture up. What I need to do is remove rod from the flexible part of auger. What is best estimate of how manufacturer attached the flexible part to the rod? After separation, I would cut off about a foot of flexible and reattach it to the rod. (some how??) Probably need help there as well.
 
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It's not shown in your photo but look for a spot of weld or a crimp mark. Do you own a welder?
 
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Old 11-26-22, 09:14 AM
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Have looked for any welding, soldering, crimping, etc. Don't see anything. Have tried rod in vise and using small pipe wrench to turn flexible part, against spiral turn so it would be "unscrewing" flexible. Doesn't budge. I don't have welder. Just torch for soldering.
 
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If you had a welder I was going to suggest cutting the spring past where the solid rod was inserted and then cut the solid rod. Then you could put hopefully work the shortened solid rod into the shortened spring. Then a small tack weld to hold them together.
 
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Old 11-27-22, 06:21 AM
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Thanks pilot. I will give it a try. No welder, so probably try solder. If it comes apart, I still can pull flexible part from toilet.
 
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Old 11-29-22, 12:57 PM
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Got them apart!! Needed to hold crank end of rod (also in vise) and turn off flexible part with 'vise grip', used (on flexible part) over the rod area. Was very hard. Still no signs of weld or solder.
 
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The spring's tension may have been the only thing holding it in place.
 
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Old 11-29-22, 01:52 PM
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I think your right. I'm first going to try turning it back on, once I cut it successfully. If it comes off, I think it will not be difficult to retrieve it out of toilet.
 
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Completed job. Hope it works or toilet never needs it.

I cut flexible cable with small rotary tool with grinder tip. Worked well. I filed a slight taper on the tip of rod so that I could start turning on cable by hand and then use the vise grip. (It is hell to push on a flexible cable. Worked well. Got cable on rod about inch. Also, the clockwise turning of crank as it goes down toilet tends to tighten the grip the cable has on the rod.

Thanks everyone. As usual, you guys helped with ideas and helped me think straight to get it done.
 
 

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