30? Year old Symmons temptrol


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Old 01-14-23, 12:49 PM
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30? Year old Symmons temptrol

I researched all the parts I would need to rebuild my temptrol.
As far as I could tell, there was an old style and a new style and I had the old style.
so, I thought I ordered all the old style parts I would need.
but when I took it apart, none of the new parts looked like the old parts and I have some extra parts.
I put the old parts back in and I will post photos so hopefully someone can tell me if I have the right parts and where they go.


This is what I have

I thiught the one on te left was the seat, but all I found in the temptrol was the one in the right

Where does this go?

It appears my new spindle and cap replaces this
 
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Old 01-15-23, 08:32 AM
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Based on my experience described in this thread it looks like your valve uses a T-52 stop spindle assembly not the (Model A) diverter spindle.

EDIT: I realized after posting that you are looking for the main stem, not the diverter. In any case the new diverter spindle in your photo does not apply.

Now that you have taken it apart and know what it looks like, finding a replacement should be easier. I have also seen Youtube videos that show the process including replacing the seats. It is not complicated.
 

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I will have to take it apart again and look at it, but I don't think the T-52 stop spindle assembly is the same one I have in my shower. Unless the new one looks different. I tried looking for a main stem, but couldn't find anything.
I assume you are only referring to the diverter , I think I figured out the cap and spindle. Although it looks different , it looks like the new cap and spindle fits.
 
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Old 01-15-23, 03:20 PM
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I just looked at your old thread.
that looks like my shower.
but you showed three possible diverters and the one you said worked is the new one I have in my photo.
so, I guess I will try putting the model A one in.
 
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Yeah, looking closer I see the diverter section hiding in the shadows. If your valve is like mine, you will have to enlarge the hole to get access.
 
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I still cant figure out how to replace the diverter spindle .
i got the first cap out but now there is something with two lugs on it in there. How do I get that out?
 
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I jammed the easyout side of the tool into the spindle and beat the hell out of it and got it out.
New diverter spindle does not fit.
It is too big in diameter.
it is hard to tell what size the old one was from what is left of it, but it does appear to be shaped the same as the new one. Only difference I can see is , new one is white and old one is gray. Do the spindles come in different sizes? Do I need a gray one?
 
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Old 02-10-23, 04:42 PM
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Went to home depot and bought a Model# TA-25B-RP.
too big.
And the Model# TA-25A-RP is too big.
home depot had another one listed , but it was out of stock. I will see if I can find it online.
does anyone know of any other sizes I can try?

 
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Old 02-14-23, 02:20 PM
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Spoke to Symmons support.
they think it might be mineral deposits making the opening in the valve smaller.
they suggested Vinegar and a wire brush.
i tried that. tried soaking a rag in vinegar, wrapping it around the wire brush and stuffed it in and let it sit overnight.
better, but still wont fit.
any suggestions for removing mineral deposits?
 
 

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