Removing old kitchen flooring...question about subflooring


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Old 12-18-06, 07:04 PM
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Removing old kitchen flooring...question about subflooring

My husband and myself are in the process of removing the flooring in the kitchen and dining room. Under the parquet (?sp) in the diningroom and vinyl/linoleum in the kitchen in this tile looking flooring that it is adhered to. We have only removed a very small peice of the flooring when we started deciding what the tile looking stuff is. It breaks up very easiely and is about a 1mm thick. it is under both floors. It has a glittery look to it as well. It feels like what the back of a peice of tile feels like.

This stuff is under what appears to be the original vinyl/linoleum in the house. There are two layers of vinyl/linoleum and you can see where the bottom layer was cut going into the dining room. The parque floors was placed over this 1mm flooring that is also under the original vinyl/linoleum. The subfloor underneath is blackened in appearance.

The parque needs to come up, and every peice that comes up is tearing up this mystery flooring.

The home was built in 1958. The parque and top layer of vinyl/linoleum has been down for atleast 7 years as that is how long we have been here.

Any ideas on what this glittery 1mm tileish looking stuff might be?

Thanks!
 
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Old 12-18-06, 08:44 PM
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It sounds like you have an old vinyl composite tile, (VCT), floor under there. The stuff has asbestos in it and most folks, especially professionals, don't want to pull it up and go ahead and install over it to encapsulate the asbestos.
 
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thoughtfulmom,

1mm seems a little thin for Vinyl Asbestos Tile (VAT), but resilient flooring manufacturers made a press-n-place service guage (thin) tile way back, so it very well could be that, some of which contained asbestos, and some of which did not and was actually known as Vinyl Plastic Tile (VPT). Vinyl Composition Tile (VCT) didn't come along until a bit later when manufacturing regulations forced them to come up with an alternate to asbestos, and VPT was hit and miss for installation ease and longevity.

IF you dont know the year or time-frame that 1mm tile was installed you have to assume it contains asbestos, especially if it was isntalled prior to 1979 or 1980.

As Smokey states, cladding over and encapsulating it is the best alternative if possible.

Since you state the parquet must come out, if encapsulation is not possible and it must come out, there are regulations for tear-out and removal, packaging, transporting, and disposition/disposal of Class 1 non-friable asbestos containing materials.

I would suggest getting it tested first and go from there.

Testing is a quick and inexpensive process and you can get a local laboratory to do it, or buy a asbestos test kit and do it yourself.

http://obscurity.ws/search.php?query=asbestos+test+kit

After you get results, then you can decide on a course of action, and if it is asbestos, then you should contact your state/local government information centers and ask them about local/state regulations. They can set you ion the right direction.

Here is another link to the Enviromental Protection Agency's website for Asbestos in the Home :

http://www.epa.gov/asbestos/pubs/ashome.html

In the end it is up to you how you proceed.

Let us know if you need any further assistance.
 
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Old 12-19-06, 01:05 PM
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Thank you both.

I think I will call our local health dept and see if they even do testing around here. We are a VERY VERY small town.

I am adding a picture just for reference. Thanks again!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/thoughtfulmom/HPIM0765.jpg
 
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Old 12-19-06, 11:26 PM
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if you cant get it tested in your small town here is a link to a asbestos test kit you can purchase off the internet, mail in, and get the results back form their lab. Just copy and paste it into your browser.

http://obscurity.ws/search.php?query=asbestos+test+kit
 
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We sell Asbestos and other test kits here at http://www.doityourself.com/icat/safetytesting
 
 

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