vinyl vs tile -- input please?

Old 09-19-05, 09:01 PM
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vinyl vs tile -- input please?

I'm buying a new construction condo, and can't decide whether I should upgrade the default flooring in kitchen and baths (vinyl, that is) to tile. I don't want to spoil the nice and new impression by installing "cheap-looking" vinyl, but I've never really seen modern vinyl sheet installed, so I don't really know whether it'd look cheap. I know it's warmer on the feet, which would be a plus

The upgrades are kinda pricey ($3200 for kitchen/eating area, 2500 sq ft, and $575 / $225 for bath / half bath). So I'm pondering to just go with the default (vinyl) for now, and if I don't like it, I could still put in tile later and come out ahead (of course there's also the work and dirt factor...) The kitchen cabinets are already in, so one has to tile around them either way.

Currently, there's what look likes plywood (though kinda white-ish) installed on the subfloor on those areas, leaving about 1/4" to the neighboring hardwood, so it looks like the tiles would go directly on top of that layer. That confuses me, since I thought one should set tile on cement board, not something wood based, but having a usable underlayment already in should reduce the work needed to put in tile afterwards. However, if I go with vinyl, I think an additional layer needs to be added between this layer and the vinyl sheet, what would typically be used for that, and how difficult would it be to remove it again and still end up with a usable surface for tiles?

What should I do? Any input would be much appreciated.
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I think you mis printed the square footage 2500sqft. I would imagine 250sqft would be right.
If you can't afford the upgrade then wait. You could do it yourself for a lot less. Is this solid hardwood you have (3/4")? If so, your tile underlayment and tile should be just under the thickness of the wood. If you have an engineered wood that is 3/8"-1/2" then your tile might end up above the wood.
Generally lino is installed over an underlayment that you will have to remove when the time comes to install the tile.
Old 09-23-05, 10:17 AM
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i'd go ahead & upgrade now. then you won't have the mess later when you're moved in & it'll be nice from the get go. life is short - do it now (if you can afford to). if you've already got real wood, then the vinyl looks that much cheaper by comparison. i'm surprised they'd even put in vinyl in a place with wood. they just don't go together. wood is an upgrade. so is tile. vinyl belongs with carpet.

we've been looking at houses for about a year now, and everytime i stepped onto vinyl, even if it was attractive, it was a let down. everytime i saw tile, i thought "Yeah - tile - nice!!"
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I've always hated vinyl... and love tile. I've installed thousands of square feet in past homes to get rid of either carpet and/or vinyl. (yeah, thousands)...

However: Just moved into a 2year old custom home a year ago... and I'll be darned if I didn't have a hard time distinguishing the vinyl "tile pattern" from the real thing. (two of my 5 bathrooms have vinyl, the others tile). Appears vinyl has come a long way in looks and texture.

On the other hand... if I were buying and had a choice - I'd do the upgrade. Rolling the cost into your mortgage won't make diddly difference in your payments... and you'll avoid the up front costs and mess of redoing down the road....
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Vinyl in a bathroom?, AAhhhhhhhh.

Talk to the buider and see if you can just have the subfloors installed without anything, and that you'll take care of it, upgrade by the builders cost almost twice what it would be if done by a tile installer later on.

Also, if this Condo has gypcrete floors, I'd think twice about tiling, unless they know what they are doing.

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