12X12 tiles adhered with clear glue?
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06-28-10, 01:02 PM
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12X12 tiles adhered with clear glue?
The tiles underneath my recently removed floating laminate ended up being 12 X 12's with a yellow/green floral pattern! Pretty sure that they're 1/16" in thickness / aka 1.5mm.
They come extremely easily (in basically whole pieces) with my heatgun and seem to have been adhered with some type of clear glue. Probably self-stick?.
Can I assume that they are NOT asbestos tiles, as I had feared, due to their size, pattern, and total lack of that ominous black mastic-cutback stuff?
They come extremely easily (in basically whole pieces) with my heatgun and seem to have been adhered with some type of clear glue. Probably self-stick?.
Can I assume that they are NOT asbestos tiles, as I had feared, due to their size, pattern, and total lack of that ominous black mastic-cutback stuff?
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Thanks for the response. I've had scary run-in's before with asbestos 9"x9"'s, but, like I said, these are 12's and there doesn't appear to be any sign of that black adhesive.
Does anyone know for sure if 12"x12" vinyl-asbestos self-stick tiles were ever manufactured?
Does anyone know for sure if 12"x12" vinyl-asbestos self-stick tiles were ever manufactured?
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Just take them up! Taking a tylenol is more dangerous then anything you will find in your kitchen floor tiles. Only way to tell if there is asbestos is to get pieces tested. FWIW, I haven't heard of any peel and stick tiles containing asbestos.
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06-28-10, 08:09 PM
Sorry guys.......you're wrong.
However I do agree that there is virtually no hazard in removing vinyl asbestos or asphalt tiles. Just don't sand them for many years and breathe the dust or eat them. The asbestos hysterics is largely a money making scheme for certain inspectors, contractors and of course lawyers.
Whether the tiles are peel & stick or not has nothing to do with what the tiles are made of. There were many millions of sq. ft. of vinyl asbestos tiles sold with sticky backs. In addition, the lack of black adhesive again has nothing to do with the tile's composition. The tiles could also have been installed using a white brush-on/trowel-on adhesive that turns clear when it's ready to set tiles.
What's happening to this floor once the tiles are gone?
Jaz
However I do agree that there is virtually no hazard in removing vinyl asbestos or asphalt tiles. Just don't sand them for many years and breathe the dust or eat them. The asbestos hysterics is largely a money making scheme for certain inspectors, contractors and of course lawyers.
Whether the tiles are peel & stick or not has nothing to do with what the tiles are made of. There were many millions of sq. ft. of vinyl asbestos tiles sold with sticky backs. In addition, the lack of black adhesive again has nothing to do with the tile's composition. The tiles could also have been installed using a white brush-on/trowel-on adhesive that turns clear when it's ready to set tiles.
What's happening to this floor once the tiles are gone?
Jaz
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06-28-10, 08:20 PM
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Exactly right Jazman. The tile companies sold existing stock until around 1995. Armstrong sold peel and stick in the early 80's. But this asbestos scare was a scam just like the current lead scare. It's all about the money.
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06-28-10, 08:47 PM
The retailers sold old stock until it was gone. However, I think the asbestos was replaced with talc, (among other things perhaps?) in the early to mid '80's. They also removed the asbestos in the backing of sheet vinyl at about the same time.
If I recall correctly, peel & stick tiles was first introduced by Flintcote in the late '60's. Or was it GAF? I don't recall.
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If I recall correctly, peel & stick tiles was first introduced by Flintcote in the late '60's. Or was it GAF? I don't recall.
Jaz
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May I ask if anyone else on here has ever removed vinyl asbestos tiles without a respirator...or without any precautions of any kind?
I've done it, but I feel like I'm the only one in the world who is stupid enough to have done it.
I've done it, but I feel like I'm the only one in the world who is stupid enough to have done it.
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06-29-10, 01:00 PM
The asbestos problem occurs mostly in workers who spent many years working in plants that processed asbestos. Lawyers suing the companies have exaggerated the problem.
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Originally Posted by scared_weekend_
May I ask if anyone else on here has ever removed vinyl asbestos tiles without a respirator...or without any precautions of any kind?
I've done it, but I feel like I'm the only one in the world who is stupid enough to have done it.
I've done it, but I feel like I'm the only one in the world who is stupid enough to have done it.
You are being way too paranoid.
