Ceramic Floor Tile


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Old 01-27-01, 09:55 AM
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I am going to install ceramic floor tile. My question is the floor now is a vinyl floor over concrete. I have been told that it isn't necessary to remove th vinyl tile but have been told that I should. At this point I don't know what to do. What do you suggest.
 
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Old 01-27-01, 12:41 PM
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Hi Julius,

Remove the vinyl. It's not very stable stuff.

John

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Old 02-02-01, 01:15 AM
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I just had ceramic tile installed. The contractor did not remove the linoleum floor in the kitchen so I asked him about it. He said that it's better to install the ceramic over the linolium because if the concrete underneath should ever crack or split, the linolium would prevent the tile from cracking as well. He said it's not unusual, especially with newer homes as they settle. As long as it's securely glued down, they's no reason to remove it. He said you have to add an additional acrylic adhesive to the the cement mix (?). Hope that helps. Good luck with your project.
 
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Old 02-03-01, 01:30 PM
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Sorry, Martha, but vinyl linoleum is not a good idea. It is not approved by the tile industry as a suitable base for ceramic tile. For one thing, you don't know how well it's attached until you try to remove it. Number two, it may come unglued at some point in the future. Number three, most vinyl surfaces shrink as they age. They also become brittle and otherwise unstable.

I'm sorry your floor was installed over the vinyl, but I can't let you recommend it to others.

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Old 02-07-01, 11:36 PM
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Thanks John, I appreciate your input. Just yesterday we were discussing the issue at work with another contractor who is installing tile in the dining room. I asked him also without telling him what I was told...he said the exact same thing as what my tile guy said. Now I'm really confused, perhaps there's more concrete cracking in Las Vegas because of the heat.???? It'll make me feel better to believe them since it's too late for me.
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Old 02-08-01, 04:10 AM
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I agree with John putting ceramic over vinyl is not a good idea. It is not a suitable substrate in the tile industry. I am sorry to all those folks that have had ceramic installed over vinyl. cross your fingers!
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Rich Gately (Tileman1)

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Old 02-13-01, 07:28 AM
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Unhappy Ceramic on top of vinyl

Can you not lay down the wire mesh over the vinyl and create a base with thinset mortar. I'm doind this as per advise from Home Depot....I've got an 1 /14 sub already and the vinyl is the hard kind that is down REALLY good.
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Old 02-13-01, 03:16 PM
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Hi Derwood,

What you are suggesting is not an approved method for ceramic tile. Thin set is meant as an adhesive. You won't find the thin set manufacturers recommending the process.

As for Home Depot, in most cases you are talking to someone who puts the stuff on the shelf. If they were tile professionals, they wouldn't be at Home Depot.

John

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