first course of shower tile
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02-18-01, 02:04 PM
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What is the best way to begin the first course of 12 x 12 shower tile. I am not starting at the floor since I have a built in bench. I figure that placing the first course at the height of the bench will give me full height tiles around the shower. I will then work up and down from this height and have a cut tile at the floor. I have mounted a ledger board for the first course but what happens on the subsequent levels. Will the spacers provide enough support for the extra rows? How many should I set at a time? Im using premixed mastic so I guess I can place a few tiles each day.
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02-19-01, 03:51 AM
Hey Rider,
If you are using glue you will be surprised how well it holds.(John will tell you to use thinset and I would also recommend thinset) You should be able to tile the whole wall! Before you start I would make sure you have a good sized cut at the top and bottom. And If your bench is not covered with backerboard (I hope it is ) make sure you do that! Pine and tile do not mix! (if its plywood I would still cover it up)
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Rich Gately (Tileman1)
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If you are using glue you will be surprised how well it holds.(John will tell you to use thinset and I would also recommend thinset) You should be able to tile the whole wall! Before you start I would make sure you have a good sized cut at the top and bottom. And If your bench is not covered with backerboard (I hope it is ) make sure you do that! Pine and tile do not mix! (if its plywood I would still cover it up)
Regards,
Rich Gately (Tileman1)
http://www.gatelytile.com
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02-19-01, 03:48 PM
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I will be using thinset so i guess im all set. Yes I used cement board on the seat and i applied waterproofing to it as well.
Thanks
I will be using thinset so i guess im all set. Yes I used cement board on the seat and i applied waterproofing to it as well.
Thanks
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02-20-01, 03:45 PM
Good Idea on the waterproofing the bench. I was going to mention that but, sometimes folks think I'm going overboard although I would rather be safe than sorry!! I especially like the folks that think it is still ok to use greenboard in wet areas and accuse me of overkill!! Your job should turn out great and give you many years of service!
By the way Is Ktm250 rider a motocross thing? Just curious
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Rich
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By the way Is Ktm250 rider a motocross thing? Just curious
Regards,
Rich
http://www.gatelytile.com
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02-20-01, 04:28 PM
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Just a quick add-on here. We usually start at the bottom with either a full tile or a cut (depending on what's going to happen at the ceiling) and use cuts above the seat. There is really no good reason to start with full tiles above the seat and work down.
Using thinset, if you work around the shower (all walls at once, up two or three courses at a time), the courses will set quick enough so that you can continue on up.
John
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Using thinset, if you work around the shower (all walls at once, up two or three courses at a time), the courses will set quick enough so that you can continue on up.
John
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02-20-01, 06:04 PM
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tileman1, most definately. I ride a KTM 250 EXC. I dont ride motocross, but that may change this year.
John,
My reasoning (may not be sound) for starting with a full tile at the top of the seat was so that my only cut tiles would be on the floor and be least noticable. The course at the seat height would all be full tiles. I plan on ending with a full tile at the ceiling, or close to the ceiling. I will try a layout with cuts above the seat and see how it looks.
Thanks for all the help.
Oh by the way, any trade secrets on cutting those stupid 1" hexagon floor tiles. I should have used the squares. I got the ones on the sheet but I need to cut halves to fill in along the wall.
John,
My reasoning (may not be sound) for starting with a full tile at the top of the seat was so that my only cut tiles would be on the floor and be least noticable. The course at the seat height would all be full tiles. I plan on ending with a full tile at the ceiling, or close to the ceiling. I will try a layout with cuts above the seat and see how it looks.
Thanks for all the help.
Oh by the way, any trade secrets on cutting those stupid 1" hexagon floor tiles. I should have used the squares. I got the ones on the sheet but I need to cut halves to fill in along the wall.
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02-20-01, 06:40 PM
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Okay, I see where you're headed on the layout. But the worst possible outcome would be skinny cuts or a gap at the ceiling. It would be better to cut off just a little, because the ceiling probably won't be level.
You have to cut the little devils individually on your cutter. You'll get good at it before it's over.
John :-)
You have to cut the little devils individually on your cutter. You'll get good at it before it's over.
John :-)
