Tiling - Spacing between Tiles and Wall

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Tiling - Spacing between Tiles and Wall

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**Please view the attached floor design

I am done with my powder room tile design. But before flooring the tiles, I want to confirm spacing between
1) Tiles
2) Tiles and Wall
3) Tiles and Transition

As of now, I designed with 1/8" (inch) space for above all. would this be ok?

Also do I need to leave space to allow expansion and contraction between transition and living area (wood flooring - marked '3' in the attachment)??

If I don't decide to have tiles on the wall, should it be ok to apply sealer between wall and the tiles?
 
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Your good, no expansion consideration needed for tile.

You will probably be installing baseboards around the perimeter of the wall on top of the tile so no need to grout along the edge of the wall and tile!
 
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Thanks Marq. Good to know "no expansion consideration needed for tile"
 
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As mentioned by Marq, I did redesign my floor and realigned floor tiles without wall space. But some articles say wall spacing should be considered for floor tiling. Now I am confused?

Can you please assist? I don't want to realize the fact after flooring my tiles

Should wall spacing to be considered for tiles? I already did maintain wall spacing for my under-lament (plywood and ditra)
 
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The reason you might space the tile away from the wall is how it might look once the baseboard is installed. Has more to do with where the grout lines are or size of the tile at the opposing wall than anything else.
 
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Thanks for ur response. Wall baseboard is already in place. It's a old bathroom. I am just replacing floor tiles and wall baseboards are already installed

When I mean wall spacing, I mean the spacing between the wall (baseboard) and edge tiles (As highlighted in the pic)
 
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Once floor tiling is completed, I have plans for wall tiles around the wall edges for at least 6 inches
 
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So you are going to have baseboard between the floor tiles and the wall tile? IMO when wall tiles are used it looks better to not have wood base. Either bring the wall tiles all the way down or use a matching ceramic base.
 
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Thanks for ur response. Either case, it could be matching tiles or baseboard, when flooring the tiles, should I need to leave the gap between the floor tiles and wall or not? (I mean between tiles and blue wall )
 
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In simple, all I am asking is,
When fitting border tile next to a wall, do I need to leave a small gap that is later covered with baseboard or wall tile.
 
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You will likely install a base board or maybe a single row of tile on the wall that would cover the gap between the floor tile and wall!
 
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Thanks Marq. But is it mandate to have gap or I am OK flooring the tiles without gap against the wall?
 
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I'm guessing that if you keep asking the same question over and over that the answer will be the same.

Here is what an industry standard says:

ANSI, under section A108.01, 2005-3.7 together with common industry practice, recommends expansion joints in tile installations at the following distances:Interior applications require joints at 24-32 feet on center. Exterior applications or interior in direct sunlight require joints at 8-12 feet on center.

Your room is interior and it is so small that it just doesn't matter either way. Technically, you should leave a gap. Either way, grouting the perimeter of the floor is unnecessary when it will be covered by a tile base.
 
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It doesn't matter, tile does not expand/contract so if you have a gap that ok, if you dont have a gap that is ok,
 
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Just for example... lets say the drywall is not between the tile and the framing. And your tile and grout is butting up tight against the bottom plate of the wall, which is wood. In that case, the reason you leave a gap around the floor tile has NOTHING to do with the tile expanding. (BTW, all matter expands and contracts with temperature and humidity changes... tile is no different.) You leave the expansion joint because you don't know how much the wood might expands if it gets wet.
 
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Thanks for your Inputs. I decided to go with leaving spaces between edge tiles and wall....!!!
 
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