Where wall & ceiling meet


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Old 10-12-02, 03:13 PM
DIYjr
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Question Where wall & ceiling meet

I could really use some help with this....

I am planning on building a wall in one of the rooms of my home in order to create a nursury (baby on the way).

I am comfortable with building the wall itself, however I am having some trouble with how I am going to join the wall to the ceiling. You see, this room along with most of the other rooms in this 1944 home are curved.

*(See the attached jpeg file for a photo)

I have been to the local building supply and HomeDepot with no success or good suggestions for how to reproduce this effect.

I know I could spend lost of time and lots of plaster creating the curve, but I have to believe there is some mold or form that can be placed along the seam ( in the corner) before covering it.

Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated!

DIYjr
 
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Old 10-12-02, 08:52 PM
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Question?

The wall that you plan on Building, is that going to be a Radius "Curved" wall as well?

It's kind of to bad that people cannot Post Pictures Here

It would be Such a BIG HELP. "HINT HINT" so that we can View peoples problems and can better assist them.

I understand there are some people that post Porn and all but come on Mod's

You guy's need to be on your toes a little faster to catch them. lol
 
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Old 10-13-02, 10:07 AM
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Hollywood,

Did not know that I was unable to post attachments.
I believe the answer to your question is yes. I would like the room to have a continuous curve all around the ceiling.

I see you use the word radius. I will do some searches on that term to see if it matches what I am looking at.

In the mean time..... with your permission I could send you a picture of what the room looks like.

Thanks again for your help.

DIYjr
 
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Old 10-13-02, 12:23 PM
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sure no problem
 
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Old 10-13-02, 01:18 PM
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Great!

I took three shots and will send them to you.

Thanks,

DIYjr
 
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Old 10-13-02, 10:19 PM
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Unfortunately the site was hit with hundreds of posts including rather vile fetish porn a few months ago, killing all of the formatting features, at least for the time being.
 
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Old 10-14-02, 10:40 AM
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Lightbulb Posted a photo

Hollywood,

Because I can't send photos via forum email; I created a web page with one photo on it.

The address is:

http://hometown.aol.com/drva320/myho.../personal.html

This photo shows one of the points from which the new wall will be built across the existing room. You can see how the junction between the wall and ceiling are curved. I think you can also make out how the curves come together in the corners of the room.

Again, any advice or help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
DIYjr
 
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Old 10-14-02, 10:42 AM
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Question ??

I don't know why, but in the address I gave for my photo in the above post it shows [url] twice.

The [URL] at the begining and end of the address are not part of the address!

Sorry.

DIYjr
 
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Old 10-14-02, 07:24 PM
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I sent you an E-mail
 
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Old 10-14-02, 10:38 PM
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curved wall

I believe that based on the information that you have given,there is a solution to your problem. Believe it or not I run into this problem every now and then in my line of work. first get a wooden board(s),size:1/2x1-1/2-2in.wide, length to be determined by you. take as many boards as you think you will need and completely submerge them in water for three days. at the end of this time period you will notice that the boards are supple and will bend if gentle force is applied. take the board out of the water. if you own a barbell set(exercise set). put 30 pounds on one end and 30 lbs. at the other end. Place the boards in the center of the rod of the barbell(the rod will be above the boards) next drill holes in each end of the boards and put rope through each hole. have a rod or bar placed a min. of 5lft. above the lower bar. tie the rope onto the upper rod in such a way that each end is equidecent from the center. you will notice that the tighter you tie the rope,the more the rope will bend the board,which is what you want. this is not something that you can do in one day, it can take up to seven days before you get the desired degree of bend in the board you want. make one bend a day and no more or the wood will break.be sure to keep the wood moist. once the angle has been achieved,let the wood dry,but dont untie it or relieve the presure until the wood has set and becomes hard to bend. I hope this was usefull,good luck.
 
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Old 10-15-02, 03:25 PM
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what I would do is measure about 2' down from the ceiling. Make a mark on the wall at one end, then do the same to the other end of the wall.
Then snap a line.
hang your walls up to that line
Then I would take a full sheet of 1/2" regular Drywall and WET the Back of it."Wet enough so that it bends"

Dont wet the front 'cause the paper will peel and you dont want that.

when the board is wet enough I would find something to bend it around to get the radius "Curve " that you are looking for.
Just bend it somewhere close to the center Length wise down the middle of the board.
Bend around a TELEPHONE pole if you can't find anything else.

then take that board and make like your going to hang it, hold in position, and have someone mark the ceiling where the top portion of that board is.

cut on that line you made on your ceiling.
then remove the sheetrock FROM that line towards the wall
and then your Radius "Curved" board will fit just right.

tape, mud ,be done with it.
 
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Old 10-16-02, 04:45 PM
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Perfect!

Hollywood,

You da man!

That should work just perfectly.

Thanks.

DIYjr
 
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Old 10-16-02, 08:17 PM
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Hollywood,
Would 1/4" drywall make the bending easier? Or is it used for dry bending larger radii?
 
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Old 10-17-02, 02:50 AM
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well 1/4" can be used aswell With shims on the studs if he wanted to go that way, if you dont use shims then there will be alot of mudding involved.


You could also hang the walls as you normally would and then take the 1/4" and make the radius BUT there will still be alot of mudding.

1/4" is good for "Dry" bending but not sure if he would get a good enough dry bend without the board cracking,
 
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Old 10-17-02, 08:50 PM
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Thanks Hollywood. I'm glad you have joined the forum to share your knowledge.
 
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Old 10-18-02, 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by bungalow jeff
Thanks Hollywood. I'm glad you have joined the forum to share your knowledge.


thank's buddy

I'm hear to help out with what I can
 
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Old 10-20-02, 08:42 AM
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The bends


The gypsum board can be bent using one of two methods: the dry method or the wet method. The dry method is useful in achieving large, sweeping curves, but it is limited by the ability of the gypsum board to be bent without breaking. The minimum radius to which dry gypsum board can be bent depends on the thickness of the gypsum board and the direction in which the board is being bent; i.e., lengthwise or widthwise. The minimum recommended bending radii for dry gypsum board is given in the table below. The minimums can be reduced by building up thinner thicknesses to achieve the needed overall thickness. For example, if the wall or ceiling surface requires a final thickness of 1/2 inch of gypsum board, two layers of 1/4-inch board can be used to achieve the tighter radius permitted for 1/4-inch thick board.

In addition to building up the needed final thickness with multiple layers of the thinner boards, tighter radii can be achieved by using the wet method. By moistening the face and back papers of the gypsum board and allowing time for the water to penetrate into the core (as described in Section 15 of GA-216-2000, Application and Finishing of Gypsum Board), the gypsum board becomes pliable and can be bent to conform to very tight radii surfaces. The entire face and back surfaces of the gypsum board to be bent should be moistened with clean water using a short nap paint roller, a water pump or a spray gun. As wet board is heavy and easily damaged, it must be handled very carefully. Water should not be allowed to stand or puddle on the moistened gypsum board. In addition, the moistened gypsum board should be stacked flat on a flat surface. Once the board is installed and is dry, it will return to its original hardness but retain its new shape
 
 

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