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Old 02-09-03, 11:39 AM
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Best way to apply texture ? which hopper?

Iv got allot of drywall mudding & texturing (orange peel) to do so Id like to purchase a good hopper. I do have a airless paint sprayer.. Should I use that?

I also have a compressor & would like some recommendations on the easiest way to do this please.

Thanks... anyone???

Mike
 

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Old 02-15-03, 10:15 AM
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[SIZE=4]HELLO ??[/SIZE]
Whats it take to get a answer from the moderater here?

I need to get this project finished.

Also, do I need to prime before texture?

Thanks

Mike
 
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Old 02-19-03, 05:10 PM
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Im about in the same place where you are. Will be texturing this week (first timer). From what I read, to get the orange peel effect, you use a combination of thin material, high air pressure, a small nozzle opening, and a rapid spraying motion creates small dots of texture on the wall.

excerpt from: http://doityourself.com/wall/drywalltexture.htm

I bought a hopper gun (to use with an air compressor) from Home Depot. They only had two kinds and they were very similar. Price was around $60-$70 from what I remember.

I havent heard anyone using a airless sprayer for texturing. May get clogged. If you already have an air compressor, I would buy the hopper gun.

Let us know how your project goes!
 
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Old 02-21-03, 05:13 PM
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Thanks Brazen!
Good info..

Sounds like Il have to buckle down & buy the gun also.

Iv got a bit of mudding left to do yet, then primer,, but please let me know how your project turned out!

Mike
 
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Old 03-02-03, 02:08 PM
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The hopper guns from the big box stores are ok for a few jobs, but if you're serious about sprayin finsh go get yerself a Marshalltown. If you've got a compressor that you can set your line pressure on and about 50'-100' of hose you don't mind gettin messy, and a good gun you're in business. Good to have at least a 100 to 150lb tank and set your line about 40-50 lbs, I usually use either the 3rd or 4th smallest hole for orangepeel. Save yourself a few scrap butts and practice a little to get your desired pattern.
Let your spray set a bit before you do knockdown. At least 20-30 mins under ideal conditions, longer if cool or damp out, but at room temp, & good ventalation when drying, (NO Fans) 1/2 an hour, drag your paddle over it, keep it flat , & she'll look beautiful and ready to prime the next day.
 
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Old 03-02-03, 07:39 PM
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Hopper

Drywall hoppers can be rented or purchased. Previous posts have provided good advice. You can also do a search on your favorite search engine for additional advice.

I can appreciate your impatience regarding not hearing from a Moderator, but we have not yet acquired one for this forum and are currently in the process of trying to acquire one. Although I have primed and painted new drywall as an interior house painter, I have never applied a texture.

An important tip is to practice on scrap drywall, plywood, cardboard, or other product before actually attempting to texture your walls.

Perhaps the following link will be helpful:

http://www.levwall.com/RomaTex%20App...structions.htm


Key issues for a successful project are proper surface preparation, proper liquid/powder ratio, and uniform application. Follow equipment manufacturer's directions for regulating texture.
 
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Old 03-02-03, 09:50 PM
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I've probablly done a couple hundred knockdown jobs, I used "Lite" drywall mud, thinned down w/water to a runny consistency, about like pancake batter. It's much easier for a first timer to work with it than w/powder. A regular 3/8" drill along with a mixer paddle from your local hardware store will do for mixing on one time jobs. Definitely look for a rental on the sprayer & hopper gun, they run $40 a day in my neighborhood, but sure to hit the car wash & rinse 'em off before returning.

On new construction, you can tape, skim coat, light sanding, wipe down excess dust, primer w/PVA primer and do knockdown, then another coat of primer & then finish paint. On remodels, in kitchen & baths, wash down thoroughly with TSP to remove any grease or other contaminents and let dry completely prior to starting finish phase.
 

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Old 03-03-03, 07:42 AM
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Thanks again.. But I cant afford one of those big sprayers with a compressor & all attached. Id like to spend no more than 200 on one, but Menards only has the plastic handle sprayers. I have a compressor.. And Iv got allot to do so rentel would be more than 200.

Im not doing a knock down, I want to match the orange peel look that I have now, but maybe in new rooms I might try knock down..

Thanks

Mike
 
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Old 03-03-03, 08:27 PM
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If you've already got the compressor, that's the expensive part. hopper gun can be bought for less than $100.

Check out this site,

http://www.fantastictools.com/pages/texture_guns.htm

I've bought from these folks befoe, they'll ship UPS, COD, usually at your door in less than a week. IMO -Worth Price Charged.
 
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Old 03-04-03, 10:33 PM
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Mike (Giant Scale),

Textured the bedroom over the weekend, and was very happy with the outcome. It came out great! Especially for a first-timer. It took about a half hour to texture the entire room and ceiling. First I practiced a couple times on left over drywall adjusting the trigger position and the distance to the drywall until I found the desired look. In the beginning, I couldnt figure out why the texture was coming out inconsistently, light at first then gradually more splatter! One thing I learned is that your compressor should pump a minimum of 6-7 cfm. Mine pumps out 2.6cfm at 90psi. so I had to stop every few min to build up pressure. The higher the pressure the lighter the splatter. The hopper gun worked out great. Made from Walboard tools, and bought it at Home Depot. I'm no professional, but I think it came out real well.

I went with a light splatter textured look without knock down. Hard to pick up on pictures but I took a couple for you.

http://www.retger.com/sanjose.html
 
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Old 03-05-03, 05:00 AM
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WOW

Youve done a great job Brazen! Thats the look Im looking for! Maybe a bit less depth though.. This thread is turning into a good one with tips & info like this!

Awesomedell: Is this the gun?

Walboard Hopper Gun Description
52-005 Leak resistant orifices prevents dripping
Internal components made of solid brass
Front TeflonŽ "O"-ring prevents trigger binding
Light weight one piece aluminum body with long steel trigger
3 solid brass orifices (3/16", 1/4" & 5/16")
Air shut off valve to control air pressure
Large capacity heavy duty plastic with built in angle
Minimum compressor of 7CFM at 25 PSI

???

Its a bit more than I expected (100 + with shipping), but very nice quality.. Must be worth the extra..

Mike
 
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Old 03-05-03, 07:46 PM
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Brazen C5 -
You've done a fine job there, hats off to ya. What kind of hardwood flooring are you doing? If you plannin on usiing a flooring nailer, go with air, rent it, it's worth the extra bucks over a hand nailer. Mostly cuz it's soooo much easier on your arm & secondly cuz, you dont mess up that pretty wall when you get close to it with that mallet.

Mike (Giant Scale)-

Sorry I guess I posted the wrong link, here's the correct link.
http://www.all-wall.com/acatalog/All...r_Guns_34.html

The gun I use is a marshalltown sharpshooter, it's near the bottom of the page and it's the least expensive, but I'm happy with the performance.
 
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Old 03-14-03, 02:38 PM
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Awesomedell and GiantScale,

Finished the 3rd (of 4) layer of urethane on the flooring. Did rent the pneumatic nailer from HD ($30 for the day) and square floor sander ($25 per 4 hours). Bought the hardwood flooring (3 inch wide, 3/4 inch deep), a blend of red and white oak for $1.19 a sq/ft. Utility grade - "may contain open knots, splits in some of the planks, shorter pieces (12-18 inches)." Basically the rejects Definitely alot more work, but considering that its a fixer upper house in a quasi industrial/residential area and looking to sell in 2 years, don't want to overspend! Besides I like that natural look LOL.

Ive updated my website. Click on the thumbnails to enlarge.

http://www.retger.com/sanjose.html

And also wanted to say thanks to everyone on this board. My friend and I bought this house as an investment. We both had zero experience, but all the determination and willingness to learn. This forum is invaluable and always found the members knowledgeable, helpful and friendly. I hope we are able to contribute as well with our experiences.

GiantScale - How is your project coming along?

chris
 

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Old 03-15-03, 07:24 AM
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Looks like everything is coming along great. Might want to work on lightening up your pics with Photo Editor, but a fine job none the less. Happy to help out.
 
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