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16X32 Outside Building. Load Bearing or NOT?

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Old 08-13-05, 04:44 AM
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Exclamation 16X32 Outside Building. Load Bearing or NOT?

I have an outside storage building that has 3 interor walls
2 of which i would like to remove ( Wall A & Wall B ). I have inserted a small diameter yellow stick where the two walls form a " T " and have taken a picture in the attic to allow me to determine where these walls intersect in relationship to the framing above them.

I have noticed that 16' "wall B" runs parellel to the joists in the attic and that it falls between two of these joists leading me to beleive that "wall B" isn't a load bearing wall.

I have 3/4 " boards from the roof sandwiched between 2 32' 2X8 's . Wall A ( 10' ) runs underneath those 2X8's but not directly. Only about 1 or 2 inches of the edge of wall A is under these 2X8's.

I'm sure as with most fourms live links are not allowed so i'll remove a( t ) from the http:// in all of them.


Thankyou

Overview:
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Phe0nix/StorageBuilding.jpg">

View A:
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Phe0nix/ViewA.jpg">

View B:
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View C:
htp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Phe0nix/ViewC.jpg

Attic:
htp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Phe0nix/Attic.jpg

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Old 08-13-05, 06:34 AM
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Interesting solution to ridge bracing.
What is the size and spacing of the ceiling joists and the roof rafters?
 
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Old 08-14-05, 01:39 PM
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Rafters & Joists

The Joists & Rafters are both 2 x 6 's ( 1 1/2 x 5 1/2 ) and the spacing is 14 1/2 " on both the Joists & Rafters.

I'm obviously not in construction and i couldn't locate anything clearly pointing out what a rafter is but i know what a joist is. Just the same i have
20 min to kill so i played with paint a little to ensure were talking about the same thing. Don't want to pretend i know what your talking about and give bad info and end up tearing out a loadbearing wall.

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Phe0nix/CellingJoists.jpg">

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Phe0nix/Rafters.jpg">
 
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Old 08-14-05, 02:17 PM
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Looks to me like none of the inside walls are load bearing.

If the ceiling joists are continuous from side to side they tie the outside walls together and the outside walls carry all the roof load. I don't see any reason for the two 2x6 32' down the centerline...they seem to serve no purpose except to use up lumber.
 
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Old 08-14-05, 05:34 PM
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The short answer is that as mentioned, you should be able to safely remove all of the interior walls.

Here is a link that will act to clarify much of that discussed in this thread;
http://www.awc.org/pdf/WCD1-300.pdf

The doubler down the middle with the 1x verticals is acting as a ridge bracing and are transferring a minor portion of the roof load to the ceiling, probably nothing significant.
"Stick framed" roof bracing is normally a combination of vertical as well as diagonal,(45 degree max.) and 32' of unsupported ridge would not be common.

There are a couple of redeeming qualities in this structure and that is that both the rafters and ceiling joists are under spanned, which affords a greater resistance to deflection.
 
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Old 08-14-05, 11:01 PM
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Celling Joists

I first want to everyone for their comments or i would have been forced to pay $300.00 for a structural engineer to come out to make the determination for me. I have been at a stand still for weeks and its nice to see that draw to a close.

As instructed i checked to see if the celling joists were truly 16' long running
from the front of the building to the back. After checking them i see that they
are continuous and are truly 16' running from outside wall to outside wall. I have taken 2 pictures and removed insulation and was able to see that "wall B" in my above diagram has no load at all on it. Wall B was directly between 2 celling joists. I have since removed "wall B" completely based on your conclusions and seeing and understanding what you were telling me. So far with wall B gone the roof is still standing, now there is only the quesiton of Wall A or is there?

I hope these 2 pictures will positivly idenity weather "wall A" is a load bearing wall or not?


Picture 1

Picture 2
 

Last edited by Phe0nix; 08-15-05 at 12:32 AM.
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Old 08-15-05, 07:12 PM
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"The short answer is that as mentioned, you should be able to safely remove all of the interior walls."
 
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